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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I swear you often go on about how you hate the midget stature of our players nowadays? And how Wenger needs to go back to big powerful strong players?

    Vela was a failure here.

    No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon View Post
    I swear you often go on about how you hate the midget stature of our players nowadays? And how Wenger needs to go back to big powerful strong players?

    Vela was a failure here.

    No thanks.
    I'm with She Wore.

    Not sure how Carlos (much as I love and respect him) is going to turn his English game around. He struggled in the League Cup against the Wednesday night cloggers and in the games he came on as a game changing sub. Sorry mate, you're not in any Arsenal team I would choose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    They have to lower their wage bill so we might be in with a shot regarding asking price but I'm not so sure about his wages.
    They don't have to lower their wage bill, they only need to ensure the wages for the 21 picked for CL squad falls within limits, which are yet to be set and can be appealed. FFP in reality means they can go on spending however much they want to - no limits, just bung a suitcase stuffed with cash at Monsewer Platini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    I'm with She Wore.

    Not sure how Carlos (much as I love and respect him) is going to turn his English game around. He struggled in the League Cup against the Wednesday night cloggers and in the games he came on as a game changing sub. Sorry mate, you're not in any Arsenal team I would choose...
    Way too harsh of an assessment for a player that could barely get a run of games. He'd only get cameo appearances for us but always seemed to score during Internationals or getting a full game during the Carling Cup. Vela's true potential is a mystery. If he'd have been given the full run like by Wenger, like how we saw with Denilson or Ramsey, we'd get to see what he's really made of. Unfortunately, there were too many good players ahead of him and never got that run of games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Way too harsh of an assessment for a player that could barely get a run of games. He'd only get cameo appearances for us but always seemed to score during Internationals or getting a full game during the Carling Cup. Vela's true potential is a mystery. If he'd have been given the full run like by Wenger, like how we saw with Denilson or Ramsey, we'd get to see what he's really made of. Unfortunately, there were too many good players ahead of him and never got that run of games.
    Happy to cede on this one and love to be proved wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon View Post
    I swear you often go on about how you hate the midget stature of our players nowadays? And how Wenger needs to go back to big powerful strong players?

    Vela was a failure here.

    No thanks.
    That's mainly in midfield where we have no real powerhouses.

    Vela though is a good little player, for 4 million that's a good deal if we signed another striker on top of that, he's developed as a player.

    He never got the opportunity last time IMO, as an additional option off the bench though he wouldn't be bad, I always thought he had talent but really never got played much and when he did was played in the wrong position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    I wouldn't exactly call Cavani second tier...though there is clearly not much room left round the sides of Ibrahimovic's ego over in Paris....

    Having said that, Cavani has flattered to deceive a remarkable amount of times in the biggest games, but in truth it can be easily forgiven if he fills his boots up against the cannon fodder. Ostensibly he is precisely the sort of player we need. Physical presence, reasonable speed and a great finishing record scoring most types of goals....

    I agree with you somewhat on Remy and I'm not sure he is a centre forward never mind a first choice striker for a club like ours but maybe I'm being harsh on him. I see him as a wide left player really for us (though we may well be stocked up there) but incidentally he would provide another option at centre forward. Nothing wrong with adding depth though and to bring in a player of his quality on free is not the sort of gift you will be presented with often.
    Remy's a wide forward for me, all day long - competition / cover for Walcott more than Giroud.

    Which, I think we arguably need (almost) as much as we need another CF? We all saw the difference that having just one willing runner in the side made to our attacking game before Christmas with Ramsey, and we all saw how badly the attack was effected when we lost him (and how it's perked up almost instantly again since he returned) - we have to assume that both he and Walcott will continue to pick up injuries along the way, given their recent injury records, so surely we need to make covering them a priority (especially while there's so many options around, many of which look like they'd be extremely cost-effective)?

    Also, if we can get more pace / goals in the side from other areas, then I personally think it blows open the list of targets we can be looking at for the new CF?

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    I think we need someone who can both do what Giroud can and more, because Giroud is very much one dimensional.

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    Unless Wenger is thinking of switching back to a front two, then no thanks. Two small and fragile for our league. He’s no Aguero/Tevez/Suarez, robust, quick and strong enough to make a nuisance of himself playing upfront by himself. Looks like he’s doing well in Spain. Not everyone is cut out for the cut and thrust of our league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    Remy's a wide forward for me, all day long - competition / cover for Walcott more than Giroud.

    Which, I think we arguably need (almost) as much as we need another CF? We all saw the difference that having just one willing runner in the side made to our attacking game before Christmas with Ramsey, and we all saw how badly the attack was effected when we lost him (and how it's perked up almost instantly again since he returned) - we have to assume that both he and Walcott will continue to pick up injuries along the way, given their recent injury records, so surely we need to make covering them a priority (especially while there's so many options around, many of which look like they'd be extremely cost-effective)?

    Also, if we can get more pace / goals in the side from other areas, then I personally think it blows open the list of targets we can be looking at for the new CF?
    I think Wenger needs to sort out his rotation of players if we’re talking about competition and back up players. We’ve got pace on the bench/reserves that we could be making better use of otherwise they’ll end up like Carlos Vela. What’s happened to Gnarby? Why can’t Ryo get a few games? What about Campbell and will we recall him back from Turkey? If we just need pace, I’m sure these players can contribute but it’s a big ask for these young and inexperienced players to go from zero to 60 after a handful of sporadic 10-15 minute appearances. Remy seems like a decent enough player but I have reservations about signing him to play on the flanks because I doubt Wenger use him as much as he should.

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