http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...han-just-money
Anyone else 'buying' that?Manchester City's Premier League Title Win Was About More Than Just Money
Interesting points. It's not as if they've bought players that we could never dream of having. There are only a couple of players in that squad we'd have no chance of signing.
They point is they've been able to stockpile whoever they wanted until they found the right formula. They've taken extreme losses on many players that 95% of clubs just cannot afford to do. It's not a problem for them to spend 100m+ on players like Robinho, Adebayor and others, only to flog them for half the price when it didn't work out. Then they start the process again.
In terms of their players being attainable for us, you have to look at wages. I'm sure we could have afforded a transfer fee but some of their players are on twice as much as a comparative player from our squad. We have money but I don't think we can afford to hand out blank cheques.
^ Roque Santa Cruz sticks out as their worst one , bought for near £20m and let go after a year
And Jo. Only played about 4 times.Originally Posted by Munchies
^ Roque Santa Cruz sticks out as their worst one , bought for near £20m and let go after a year
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I'll be pleased to see the club lift a trophy again, as for Wenger and the cup, think he's been fortunate his club in the business end of the cup haven't had to face the top teams, because that's usually when we fall apart, although we almost did that in the semi's to be fair, thank f*ck we didn't play a better side.
We faced Liverpool but at an earlier stage when other big clubs were still in it and thus we were under less pressure as we probably didn't believe we could win it.
Regardless of what happens, he's done at the top level, that's proven now.
City only won the title because Liverpool bottled it and Chelsea didnt have decent strikers. You can spend as much time as you want overanalysing why things happen. You conveniently forget that we beat Liverpool a week after they'd hammered us in the league and we'd only drawn with United midweek plus they were all over us so regardless of how you see it that victory took tremendous amount of psychological strength to get through. Same with Wigan, the team that had taken three premier league scalps on the way to the semis after the defeat to Everton we were rock bottom confidence wise and yet when it came to penalties they were dispatched with consummate ease.
I don't think Wenger is the man to take us forward but my problem with people like you is that you hold Wenger in such contempt that you obscure facts to fit your opinions. I am frustrated and exasperated with a season of missed opportunity but unlike you I don't think everything Wenger has done has been shit and if he wins us the cup this season, fair play to him.
The pay a premium on the wages just like what they do on the transfer fees. Certain players wouldn’t be able to command that sort of fee anywhere else. Nasri is an example. If City weren’t interested in signing him he’d be a £80k - £100k wage player.
No I personally feel Wenger will do the bare minimum. He has hinted a number of times already that we will not be doing much business, comments such as...."we want to keep this squad together", "don't expect many signings", "no business will be done before the world cup".
I honestly believe we will only sign a striker and backup keeper. The rest of the areas will be covered by internal solutions.
Will that be enough for us to challenge for the title next season? I very much doubt it. It will allow us to scrap it out for top 4 though...
Agreed, and one point I feel is often missed is that it's not just about the work they're doing / money they're spending on assembling their own squad - you also have to factor in the disruption and damage they cause to other teams who don't have their spending power (like us), when they come sniffing around their players. I have no doubt we could have assembled a similar group of players over the last 8-9 years (probably for a lot less money), but it's very difficult to keep them together and build a challenging side of your own when agents are whispering in their ears all season long about how they can double or treble their money at City, Chelsea, PSG, etc? Instead of being able to strengthen each summer and take your team to the next level, you end up running just to stand still, as you have to waste all your time replacing departing players, and trying get a new group up to the same standard as the last one!
Liverpool bottled it, that's true I don't disagree and IMO it taints this title win somewhat for City because they weren't wholly deserving.
Yes we beat Liverpool though from memory that game was close and could have gone the other way, we were at home however and at home you'd expect us to have the advantage, I'm not sure it needed mental strength, we dont struggle in games like this, where we struggle is when we get closer to the winning line and play top sides. Wigan should have been a walk in the park, they're in the Championship and only got through because City didn't turn up, in the end it took penalties, which are lets face it luck of the draw, we barely earnt the result.
A win's a win and god do we need one, but I don't think this changes anything about regarding our mental problems, the league has proved this. Winning the cup changes little for me, because ultimately in the league we've totally bottled it again and proved that once again Wenger is incapable of producing a side strong enough to come through when things get tough, we've had enough of him now to know that.
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