Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Niall_Quinn]

Lol. Just say you want more money ffs, no one cares . He should hire Rooney's agent, this guy looks like a fool.

Make a bid Arsene

If £190k a fucking week doesn't suit him then we're little bit out of our class in terms of mercenary fees. Still, we should table a £10,000,001 bid just for the fun of the gypos telling us we have no class.

[Power n Glory]

Erm no, I thought I was supposed to be grateful?

And you should be too. You never said thanks to Global for providing you with a new argument when your own fell flat.

And you're sill not even in the vicinity of getting it. If Marketing had come along and offered him the chance of a lifetime then okay, you can start to understand it. But this is the gypos offering him a bag of cash to sit on a bench. But I suppose if he has so little respect for himself then he's hardly likely to have any for the club or the fans.

My argument has always been he hasn’t signed a lifelong contract with us and regardless of who makes the point first, your argument has some obvious holes in it. If the game was based on what your arguing, there would be no contracts or club transfers. He’s helped us win our first cup in years and been a solid player for us. Not one of my favs but he’s gone about a move to another club in a professional way and hasn’t tried to get out of his contract early. I can’t really fault that. Not every player is going to finish their career with us. Wright didn’t, Parlour didn’t, Henry didn’t, Pires, Overmars, Petit…it’s a long list. I have no idea what role Sagna will play as City, but I know that Wenger usually starts to rotate and wind in players other 30 and has always been reluctant to offer the best possible deal. That’s his choice like it’s the players choice to accept that or move on. Some feel they still have life left with a top club.

[I am invisible]

Schneiderlin's been making noises about wanting to play for a CL club again. I think he'd be a good buy for someone (us?) - good tackler, good passer, has a good engine, and is PL ready...

[Niall_Quinn]

My argument has always been he hasn’t signed a lifelong contract with us and regardless of who makes the point first, your argument has some obvious holes in it. If the game was based on what your arguing, there would be no contracts or club transfers. He’s helped us win our first cup in years and been a solid player for us. Not one of my favs but he’s gone about a move to another club in a professional way and hasn’t tried to get out of his contract early. I can’t really fault that. Not every player is going to finish their career with us. Wright didn’t, Parlour didn’t, Henry didn’t, Pires, Overmars, Petit…it’s a long list. I have no idea what role Sagna will play as City, but I know that Wenger usually starts to rotate and wind in players other 30 and has always been reluctant to offer the best possible deal. That’s his choice like it’s the players choice to accept that or move on. Some feel they still have life left with a top club.

Are you his agent?

We offered him 3 years at £90K pw if the accounts are true. That means we broke the rules for him. Fine if he has time left at the top, that's what we offered him. You don't see any degrees in this do you? A contract is a contract, nothing else to be said. Business is business and I get the idea you feel it is naive and idealistic to imagine there's more to it than that. Maybe so, but only because more and more people are simply accepting money as the driving force behind everything. That's why we live in an unimaginably fucked up world by the way.

But in truth, I think we can do a lot better anyway and hope we do.

[Marc Overmars]

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Seluk says Toure wants "more attention from the club", adding "some clubs give flowers" and "it isn't about money"

I thought Yaya seemed like a decent enough guy but this is embarrassing.

[Marc Overmars]

[Niall_Quinn]

tbf Roberto Carlos got a Bugatti Veyron from the club for his birthday, Toure didn't. The arabs can afford to buy a title but for some reason can't afford to buy Yaya a Bugatti. This is the level of disrespect Toure has to endure. I wonder how any of us would react if we had to suffer it? I can see how some people are going to spin this into Yaya being greedy and shit like that. But as he say's, it's not about the money, it's about respect. All Toure wants is respect and that's why he is speaking out like this via his agent. Undoubtedly it is the best way to get the respect he craves.

[Power n Glory]

Are you his agent?

We offered him 3 years at £90K pw if the accounts are true. That means we broke the rules for him. Fine if he has time left at the top, that's what we offered him. You don't see any degrees in this do you? A contract is a contract, nothing else to be said. Business is business and I get the idea you feel it is naive and idealistic to imagine there's more to it than that. Maybe so, but only because more and more people are simply accepting money as the driving force behind everything. That's why we live in an unimaginably fucked up world by the way.

But in truth, I think we can do a lot better anyway and hope we do.

When did we offer him £90k and a 3 year deal? Was that a last ditch move after negotiations stalled? Similar to the last minute offer for Theo? The damage may have already been done and he had already decided to move on. It happened with Cashley, it happened with Flamini and we were very close to losing Waloctt that way. Regardless of how the negotiations went, the player has a choice once his contract is over. If you want to talk greed, who could have tried to engineer a move away whilst under contract and sulked throughout the season leaving us with a useless player. Those are the degrees. From what your telling me, regardless of circumstances, if a player wants to leave a club, he’s a cunt. What does that make Henry, Cesc, Wright, Parlour, Bould, Pires, Petit….it’s a childish attitude.

You don’t know if money is the driving force behind Sagna’s move. He may want to win more cups and the title before he retires and this is his final contract. He’s given his peak years to Arsenal and I won’t begrudge him a move to bigger club. You don’t know if Wenger has him down as a main starter over the next couple of seasons either.

There isn’t a need to drag this into a ‘what’s wrong with the world’ argument but if we’re going down that route, I don’t see how it’s right for a corporation to have the sort of power to hold an employee for their career when they want to leave. Regardless of how much money a footballer earns, what you’re saying isn’t right.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Since when did City become a bigger club than us?

Assuming that's where he's heading ie.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

He looks shady as fuck.