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Thread: Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Kosielny has an Achilles problem and will miss the opening game. Merts isn't 't match fit. Could be a bumpy ride if we don't buy decent cover because we'll be rushing players back.
    I do believe we are working on deals just not convinced we will bring in the right players. I dunno...maybe I have been spoilt with the signings of Ozil and Sanchez over the past few summers and with us being linked to geniune quality.

    I was hoping/expecting that we would sign a top class DM or CM and at the very least replace Tommy V properly. The CM/DM is looking unlikely, though I do feel we will bring in a 3rd/4th Choice CB, we have been quite heavily linked with that Greek lad at Olympiakos, Manolas. He played in the World Cup for Greece, looked pretty solid. Seems a typical "under the radar Arsene" type signing....

    Here's hoping we do some more business.

    Edited to add: I see we have Everton away 2nd game of the season, I know Arsene likes a gamble but even he wouldn't go there with Chambers and Monreal lining up as CB's? Surely not?.....
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    We weren't a million miles away though last year. We finished what, 7 points off the top? And we won the Cup (and no, we didn't get easy draws, we got home draws but we had to play 3 of the top 6 so we earned that). Had Ramsey not have got injured we'd have been closer still IMO. I would have liked a real top class striker but they don't grow on trees, with Walcott back, Ramsey hopefully staying fit, Ozil hopefully bedded in more and Sanchez adding some firepower I think we've got a real chance this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    But it wasn't a lack of ambition, was it? It just looked that way as the financial plan wound out. Ozil and then Alexis isn't exactly a lack of ambition. In the end it was van Cash who lacked ambition. Instead of sticking it out as the plan unfolded he ran off for the instant gratification. How is that ambitious? It's the easiest of easy options. And then he saw that you can't predict anything in football. I wonder what decision he'd make given hindsight? How about Fabregas? And all the others who scarpered? When you have to run a business rather than a circus sometimes it's not possible to instantly satisfy every overblown ego.
    Lack of ambition is when you are told you have 100m to spend and only spend 35m of it when you are short of a striker dcm and a centre back.Do you not agree?

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    Why is spending lots and lots of money ambitious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Why is spending lots and lots of money ambitious?
    Because hoarding the money makes no sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintnickle View Post
    Lack of ambition is when you are told you have 100m to spend and only spend 35m of it when you are short of a striker dcm and a centre back.Do you not agree?
    Goes back to the old argument about funds, do we have £100mill for transfer fees - or £100mill for transfer fees, agent fees, wages, etc, etc? And when do we have to pay? Are the payments spread over years? Do we get paid immediately for players heading out? Who signed new contracts with better terms. Would be nice to think it's just £100mill and then do a fantasy football jigsaw to use up the funds, but it's probably not like that.

    We are not short a DM or striker. Some think the ones we have aren't good enough, which is a different thing and a matter of opinion. We are short a CB since Tommy left. I hope we replace him too and there's still time to do that.

    If the media has anything right they say we tried to sign Khedira and have been chasing Carvalho. Also said we were after a CB swap deal for Tommy with Utd. So (if true) it's not as if these positions are being ignored. It's just we haven't landed anyone yet. There's still a job interview aspect to this, don't forget. Employers don't just ring somebody and say we're hiring you, be here on Monday. The prospective employee has a right to say yes or no and set out the terms required to do the deal. Then add an agent (and sometimes the whole bloody family) and all their demands. Then the lawyers. Then the doctors. Then the Home Office, and so on. We've pulled off four deals so far, all for decent players. Maybe we'll do a fifth and a sixth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Because hoarding the money makes no sense
    We aren't hoarding it. We're balancing the books with it. The chavs have happily lost £800mill or something like that, we can't afford it. There would be no Arsenal if we did that.

    Why has this all started again now? We were all understandably nervous during a decade of transition, but the board said the funds would come on tap and they have. And they have been used. Wenger said we'd win trophies again, and we have. We were worried we were a selling club instead of a buying club. That has turned around. Did anyone seriously expect an instant transformation in one season or even two? But isn't everything in progress, heading the right way? What's the deal here, what is it going to take for a certain section of the fans to say fair cop, things are on the up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Because hoarding the money makes no sense
    Agreed, but looking at what we've done this summer it doesn't seem like that's what we've been doing. We've hardly accrued hundreds of millions which is now just sitting there.
    Wenger has clearly been taking a long term view and until the new financial deals were in place was unwilling to (what he saw as) over-spend. We can debate whether he was over-cautious, I think maybe he was a bit, but although we all want success NOW this won't be the last season in the history of Arsenal Football Club. I'd rather him put us in a position where we are stable financially and able to compete long term than over-do it, achieve some short term success and get us in financial bother which means we can't sustain it. It's always a difficult balance to strike, I don't think Wenger's got it too far wrong. We won the Cup last year, we've made some good signings this summer and I believe we're in a good place to push on this year. Not sure we'll win it but for the first time in years I believe it's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    We aren't hoarding it. We're balancing the books with it. The chavs have happily lost £800mill or something like that, we can't afford it. There would be no Arsenal if we did that.

    Why has this all started again now? We were all understandably nervous during a decade of transition, but the board said the funds would come on tap and they have. And they have been used. Wenger said we'd win trophies again, and we have. We were worried we were a selling club instead of a buying club. That has turned around. Did anyone seriously expect an instant transformation in one season or even two? But isn't everything in progress, heading the right way? What's the deal here, what is it going to take for a certain section of the fans to say fair cop, things are on the up?


    I really can't fathom why some fans are still moaning

    I hated our transfer policy of previous years, but they have done what they said they would do this season.

    We have bought some quality players, one for the future and haven't yet sold anyone important. That comes off the back of an FA cup win & then we went out and Citeh with only 5 playa let us beat them for the community shield.

    I have nothing more to complain about and things are looking up.
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    It was interesting what Alan Sugar said yesterday:

    “It’s right that you promise the manager the proceeds of the Bale sale and say he would be given all to spend on players. That’s great.

    “But I would guess if you had made that promise to Arsene Wenger then he would have gone, ‘Thank you, Mr Chairman. That’s good. Stick it in the bank and I will use it when I find somebody who I think is worthy to buy.’

    “But they went out like a kid in the sweet shop. He (Villas-Boas) bought anything in sight and went and spent the money straight away.

    “That told me that the management beneath him were delinquent in some way. You can’t do that. It doesn’t make sense that you can go and pick seven players. What does that say about the rest of the squad?

    “You can’t criticise Daniel because as the chairman you are under pressure when you have an untenable situation of having to sell Bale.

    "He did a great job in negotiating the world record. Then he promised the money to the manager. What more can he do?”

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