Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Dein-machine]

Chelsea's starting midfield/attack yesterday cost £160 mill at an average of £27 mill per player. If we put Giroud in for Sonogo & Ozil in for Wiltshire ( which is what I think we may have done if fit ) our starting midfield/attack against Palace cost £125 mill at an average of £21 mill per player. The trouble is that Ozil & Sanchez make up £77 mill of our £125 which would show our ability to spend is finally helping us catch up. Would imagine our starting midfield/attack for the previous few years would have been about £60 mill. The big difference is that the Chavs also have this kind of quality to bring off the bench which means this will start & finish most games with this level of quality on the pitch.
Yesterday, every one of their players looked comfortable on the ball whereas we had Wheelchair running into opponents as usual ending up on the floor & Sanchez, Cazorla & Rambo giving away possession so many times - don't even get me started on Sonogo. His advisers must make sure that he never buys a house with a balcony outside his bedroom otherwise the poor fucker will fall to his death. His legs move in the opposite way to his brain.
So another couple of £30 mill signings in midfield & attack would bring us even closer quality wise in an attacking sense - I'm afraid you get what you pay for in life ( unless you've bought Andy Caroll or David Luiz ofcourse ).

[Niall_Quinn]

Or Torres. Or any number of forwards the gypos have wasted a fortune on.

90 minutes into the new season and too many people are reading too much into too many things. It's said our game against the gypos was meaningless. Meaningless in terms of 3 points maybe, but the only meaningful aspect of the chavs win over the non-entity Burnley was the 3 points. Nothing can be determined from a match up like that. There were very few moments of quality over the weekend. The two that stand out was the inevitability of Aguero scoring when he went through on goal and the control demonstrated by Ramsey to set up his goal. This was real quality and both these players would command much higher fees than listed from their last moves. £5mill for Ramsey. Quadruple that at least. If Walcott fires then we have as good as one of those £30mill signings. And if Ox improves this season we probably have another. But it'll take a long season to see it all wind out. The big changes haven't come from just the transfer budgets. Just as important was the new and strong possibility we'd grab a result vs Palace (rather than blow it in the last minutes) as opposed to the almost zero chance of Utd doing the same. That's a big shift.

[Syn]

At least quadruple the £5m he says.

imagine accepting a £25m bid for Ramsey. Unreal banter. #nomakeupselfie

[Niall_Quinn]

:herbtea: #likereallygivigashit.bitch.com

[Niall_Quinn]

Plus I don't know the word for 8x

[Dein-machine]

Or Torres. Or any number of forwards the gypos have wasted a fortune on.

90 minutes into the new season and too many people are reading too much into too many things. It's said our game against the gypos was meaningless. Meaningless in terms of 3 points maybe, but the only meaningful aspect of the chavs win over the non-entity Burnley was the 3 points. Nothing can be determined from a match up like that. There were very few moments of quality over the weekend. The two that stand out was the inevitability of Aguero scoring when he went through on goal and the control demonstrated by Ramsey to set up his goal. This was real quality and both these players would command much higher fees than listed from their last moves. £5mill for Ramsey. Quadruple that at least. If Walcott fires then we have as good as one of those £30mill signings. And if Ox improves this season we probably have another. But it'll take a long season to see it all wind out. The big changes haven't come from just the transfer budgets. Just as important was the new and strong possibility we'd grab a result vs Palace (rather than blow it in the last minutes) as opposed to the almost zero chance of Utd doing the same. That's a big shift.

Have to agree with Syn - £20+ mill valuation of Ramsey

I agree that Walcot could be seen as a 30 mill player but if Wenger wants to continue with his "big lazy forward" routine then where do you play him. If you say Sanchez can go wide left then your thoughts on OX improving this year will be affected with lack of game time. This was the point I was making a few days ago, if we're going to spend big ( which we don't do often ) then it needs to be in areas that improve our starting line up, not just to strengthen the squad. Last year Chelsea fans were concerned about the lack of creativity in midfield & no centre forward. Fabregas & Costa represents a huge improvement for Chelsea in 2 key areas in their starting line up. At the back end of last year most Arsenal fans would have agreed that in midfield & attack the two areas most in need of improvement was a defensive midfielder & a natural goal-scorer. We have done nothing in these area's. In Sanchez we may have simply bought another Walcot. The fact that Theo loves a hospital bed probably means that this is still a good move but if we can't spend big on a DM or a CF because of the Sanchez move then we have a problem. Many people on here said the same thing last year when we bought Ozil.

You may not be worried about the Palace game but I saw too much of last yeat

[Niall_Quinn]

And what I'm saying is let the season unwind a bit and the ground will change. Last year we were all saying, "Is that Ramsey?!!! The same Ramsey?" Who knows how things will pan out? Some of these big time chavs may end up flops, some of our lads that are under the radar might take a leap forward. I think we absorb improvement too easily and are too eager to make the next demand. Five players already brought in, not all of them in the ideal positions but we know what our injury record is like - all those new bodies will help even if we do have four players for one position in some cases.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Chavs have done well with their signings but it's not all doom and gloom for us just because we didn't take up the Cesc option.....Wenger is giving Jack his chance to prove that what we saw a couple if years ago was not a fluke, it happened with Ramsey it can happen with him. With Sanchez around then maybe Ox needs to up his game to play out wide but I reckon Wenger had CM penciled out for Ox and Jack could be the one that misses out if he doesn't take the first stab chance he has been given....in fact was Jack first preference anyhow? Us Ox back to fully fit after WC?

[Niall_Quinn]

I really hope we're not planning to use Ox as a DM. That would be a criminal waste.

[Maestro]

So we are all still with okay for not taking up the Cesc option?

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