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    A few goals

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Isn't Welbeck younger than Walcott?

    He can also play on the wing and runs rings around carzola, podolski and giroud, much better fit for our few counter attacking style than either of those options.
    Yeah, he's younger. Only 23. I'm really not a fan and it's a long shot but I'd bank on that over Giroud at the moment. The kid has the work rate and pace so you never know.

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    A few goals
    Rather then comparing him to Welbeck, why not do the same comparisons to the strikers of the teams wer'e supposed to be competing against - then your little 40 goals per 100 games scenario will look like the crap stat that it is for a supposed 1st choice striker of a top European team.

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    Really wasn't interested in the Cavani rumours at £50+ mill but now that we hear Giroud could be thrown in I'm all for it - £32 mill + Giroud is basically £32 mill - lets do it

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    If United would sell him to us for £15mill, we should do it. He has the raw ingredients (strength, pace, endurance, trickery) - if we can drill composure in to him Welbeck would very very good.

    Less risk imo than people like Reus or Martinez and half as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    Rather then comparing him to Welbeck, why not do the same comparisons to the strikers of the teams wer'e supposed to be competing against - then your little 40 goals per 100 games scenario will look like the crap stat that it is for a supposed 1st choice striker of a top European team.
    I'm comparing him to Wellbeck because people are suggesting we replace Giroud with him

    I've already said I agree Giroud isn't good enough to lead the line for a side who are serious about competing for the title. But he was our top scorer yesterday, he hasn't just got 'a few goals' and he isn't 'crap'.

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    I think we are still hearing to many "if we work on his" & "if he could Adapt" when it comes to us buying players. We have become accustomed to Wenger's bargain buys & many of us giving up the ghost of buying real quality finished article players under his reign. Last year the arrival of Oz & this year Sanchez gives us a bit of hope but top level European football is now at a stage where there is no time for Wenger's bargiain buys to be given a few years to get better or to adapt to another role. If we are to compete we have to buy quality. Players that we buy that need conditioning & improvements need to be loaned out - Sonogo ideal example.
    We have not improved in defensive midfield role or natural goal-scoring role in the transfer windows since RVP left which I think is 6 windows. Every on on here, every Arsenal fan I talk to, non-Arsenal fans, football pundits ALL know these areas need addressing but we do nothing. If Mr Stubborn finally sees that Giroud is not quite as good as he thought & he allows his pride to get hurt by signing another striker, we cannot afford it be another Giroud. It has to be quality because we need this player to hit the ground running, especially as we've left it so late in the window - again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    If United would sell him to us for £15mill, we should do it. He has the raw ingredients (strength, pace, endurance, trickery) - if we can drill composure in to him Welbeck would very very good.

    Less risk imo than people like Reus or Martinez and half as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    I think we are still hearing to many "if we work on his" & "if he could Adapt" when it comes to us buying players. We have become accustomed to Wenger's bargain buys & many of us giving up the ghost of buying real quality finished article players under his reign. Last year the arrival of Oz & this year Sanchez gives us a bit of hope but top level European football is now at a stage where there is no time for Wenger's bargiain buys to be given a few years to get better or to adapt to another role. If we are to compete we have to buy quality. Players that we buy that need conditioning & improvements need to be loaned out - Sonogo ideal example.
    We have not improved in defensive midfield role or natural goal-scoring role in the transfer windows since RVP left which I think is 6 windows. Every on on here, every Arsenal fan I talk to, non-Arsenal fans, football pundits ALL know these areas need addressing but we do nothing. If Mr Stubborn finally sees that Giroud is not quite as good as he thought & he allows his pride to get hurt by signing another striker, we cannot afford it be another Giroud. It has to be quality because we need this player to hit the ground running, especially as we've left it so late in the window - again.
    I don't personally see the striker position being as big a priority as the DM position, nor do I feel it as urgent, hence 'settling' for the potential of turning around someone like welbeck instead of relying on Giroud, Sonogo, Podolski or Walcott to lead the line.

    In DM, the players are there, and we should go all out. Strikers? Very few are any good, and almost none of those are available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I'm comparing him to Wellbeck because people are suggesting we replace Giroud with him

    I've already said I agree Giroud isn't good enough to lead the line for a side who are serious about competing for the title. But he was our top scorer yesterday, he hasn't just got 'a few goals' and he isn't 'crap'.
    Your stat would say he's getting "a few" goals every 5 games - simply not good enough, especially with the chances we create.
    I know its hard for you to agree with us horrible, moaning, miserable gits on GW but his performance the other night was nothing short of "crap". We know Wenger hates making tactical substitutions apart from when he wants to kill games & hang on for dear life by bringing on Flamini when we already have Arteta on the pitch but to not sub him at half time after that performance is unbelievable. If he can play like that & play a full game, where's the will to improve?. When you have Sonogo as the main striking threat to your 1st team place - do you get a bit lazy, do you really need to be at your best?.
    It wasn't a one-off, he had plenty of games last year where during the live thread we were asking for him to be taken off, sometimes even asking for King Nic to replace him, now that has to equate to crap!.
    A team with lack of options up-top cannot afford to have someone there who is a reasonable player, which I take it is your opinion of him. Reasonable for a top team equates to 2nd choice squad player.
    In your own words Letters - "lets hope the FA Cup is the springboard to bigger success", we won't get bigger success with mediocre players playing in very important positions.

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