The Welbz Thread (official)

[Niall_Quinn]

With agents running the game, Wenger would've had information a long time ago. He kept talking about 'deadline day poker'. You can call him lucky this year, you can say he was lucky last year but the deadline deals did get done. With Man Utd looking likely to get Falcao, Wenger did say he wasn't surprised that Welbeck was available. Tottenham were heavily linked with him too before deadline day. He said the surprise was about the 'loan v permanent' situation. As invisible says the 'luck' involved was probably Giroud getting injured because Wenger might've gambled on Giroud's usually reliable fitness levels.

I'd say he's taking a big chance on the CB situation but overall the squad was strengthened. I'd say 3 decent signings, 1 potentially great signing (Chambers) and 1 brilliant signing (Sanchez). I expected worse at the start of the window.

Are we missing a trick by not relentlessly ripping the piss out of the spuds for losing out again? To lose Welbeck might be considered unfortunate, but to lose their whole stadium smacks of carelessness.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sure Agent Splinter.

NQ had a bit of meltdown over Sanogo and he has no anti Wenger agenda, so what’s your point? Even Mac commented on relying on Sanogo. Great wumming! But as said, it sparks discussion. It’s the same shit the tabloids do. Job done.

Meltdown?

Done that ages ago. I'm in the vaporisation period now. But it will be straight to desublimation if that turd plays.

[Injury Time]

Are we missing a trick by not relentlessly ripping the piss out of the spuds for losing out again? To lose Welbeck might be considered unfortunate, but to lose their whole stadium smacks of carelessness.

They probably sold it for smack tbf, about £2.59 worth, shit hole.

[Power n Glory]

With agents running the game, Wenger would've had information a long time ago. He kept talking about 'deadline day poker'. You can call him lucky this year, you can say he was lucky last year but the deadline deals did get done. With Man Utd looking likely to get Falcao, Wenger did say he wasn't surprised that Welbeck was available. Tottenham were heavily linked with him too before deadline day. He said the surprise was about the 'loan v permanent' situation. As invisible says the 'luck' involved was probably Giroud getting injured because Wenger might've gambled on Giroud's usually reliable fitness levels.

I'd say he's taking a big chance on the CB situation but overall the squad was strengthened. I'd say 3 decent signings, 1 potentially great signing (Chambers) and 1 brilliant signing (Sanchez). I expected worse at the start of the window.

I'm not so sure he knew of the Welbeck situation long before deadline day as you suggest. He may have suspected they'd have to sell at least one of their strikers if the Falcao deal goes through but I wouldn't say he intended on moving for one of them or was on the phone with his agent well before. If he was serious about the deal not happening if he hadn't have gone to Rome, it suggests he would have gambled on the players we had to see us through Giroud's injury. I'm hoping that's just him trying be humorous. But I doubt it when you look at the situation with the defenders where he has gambled on their fitness.

If agents were keeping us well versed with the Welbeck situation, what happened with their input on available defenders? Shouldn't we have known there weren't many defenders around and maybe kept Verm and Miquel? I look at that situation and compare it to the striker's and it just boils down to circumstance instead of taking action early.

It's great that reacted quickly to the Welbeck situation but we shouldn't be reacting and putting out fires. A bit of forward planning would be nice. If Wenger truly intended to play Sanchez as a striker, that idea must get thrown out the window with Welbeck's arrival. It's pointless playing Danny on the wing. We'll see what happens over the season. It hasn't been a bad window at all but we can do better.

[Injury Time]

It's pointless playing Danny on the wing

So will start on the left wing, Alexis on the right, Sanogo upfront then...

[fakeyank]

I'm not so sure he knew of the Welbeck situation long before deadline day as you suggest. He may have suspected they'd have to sell at least one of their strikers if the Falcao deal goes through but I wouldn't say he intended on moving for one of them or was on the phone with his agent well before. If he was serious about the deal not happening if he hadn't have gone to Rome, it suggests he would have gambled on the players we had to see us through Giroud's injury. I'm hoping that's just him trying be humorous. But I doubt it when you look at the situation with the defenders where he has gambled on their fitness.

If agents were keeping us well versed with the Welbeck situation, what happened with their input on available defenders? Shouldn't we have known there weren't many defenders around and maybe kept Verm and Miquel? I look at that situation and compare it to the striker's and it just boils down to circumstance instead of taking action early.

It's great that reacted quickly to the Welbeck situation but we shouldn't be reacting and putting out fires. A bit of forward planning would be nice. If Wenger truly intended to play Sanchez as a striker, that idea must get thrown out the window with Welbeck's arrival. It's pointless playing Danny on the wing. We'll see what happens over the season. It hasn't been a bad window at all but we can do better.

I still dont understand why we are not signing Yepes as a backup CB for the season. No brainer tbh..

[GP]

[fakeyank]

[Niall_Quinn]

Van Gaal showing what a tiny "man" he is. Fergie was the enemy, but you could never imagine him stooping to the level of this pygmy.

Louis van Gaal has delivered a brutal explanation for Manchester United’s decision to sell Danny Welbeck to Arsenal, saying the England international was below the standards required at Old Trafford and there were younger players waiting to come through who had the potential to make more of themselves.

Van Gaal said the decision to let Welbeck go had been made before it became apparent United could bring in Radamel Falcao on his loan arrangement from Monaco and was essentially based on the player’s scoring record over the years.

“I have given all the players a chance to convince me of their qualities,” Van Gaal said. “Yes, Danny Welbeck was here from when he was nine. He has played, after [his 2010-11 loan at] Sunderland, three seasons at Manchester United but he doesn’t have the record of [Robin] Van Persie or [Wayne] Rooney and that is the standard. That is why we let him go – because of Falcao but also the youngsters who can fit in.”

Contrast to Arsene, bearing in mind the way RvC stabbed the club before scuttling away.

[Niall_Quinn]

BTW, Arsenal finished 4th last season and are in the Champions League. Utd finished 7th and will have their feet up on Euro nights. So Welbeck is moving up a level to a higher standard. Perhaps van Wank is right then, not Utd standard. Welbeck needs this pinned on the wall when we play them.