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Thread: Has Wenger really benefitted AFC since 2006?

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    And its this that has seen him fall so far from grace, because Gooners (and everyone else) have realised that the 'good business' has come at a high price - that price being a manager who is now treating our great club as his personal vanity project.
    Fall from grace might be a bit harsh, we are still a top 4 side despite the burden of a new stadium and the birth of the sugar daddy owner (Ignoring Jack Walker) we have been to 3 cup finals as well, we just fall the wrong side of that fine line people keep talking about. Are we weaker than when we were at Highbury? yes of course we are, is that all down to Wenger? No

    To AKBwhatshisfaces point i would suggest that a man management or tactics expert could take what we have right now and do very very well with it, I think if another more, dare i say, "football" manager type had the backing that Wenger has received under such furious criticism they would have won trophies in the last six years IMO.

    Tis funny but i watched Wigan play the other night and was genuinely jealous of the effort, self belief and style they were operating with, and they are beyond shite. Comparing that to our keystone cops type of play is like comparing, erm, well Arsenal and Wigan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    Shush child the grown ups are speaking.
    /* says the 5 year old girl with her mothers lipstick and oversized grown up clothing during a mock tea party.

    Holloway/Coyle for Arsenal manager... Out of al the rejects you could have picked that would have at least contrasted with Wenger, you picked the two with the most similar flaws and no record of winning anything anywhere beyond promotion. This is the level of debate and rationalism here. The ignorant levels of crap written leave me no choice but to challenge it. I'm sure a bunch of people lurking have just given up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    /* says the 5 year old girl with her mothers lipstick and oversized grown up clothing during a mock tea party.

    Holloway/Coyle for Arsenal manager... Out of al the rejects you could have picked that would have at least contrasted with Wenger, you picked the two with the most similar flaws and no record of winning anything anywhere beyond promotion. This is the level of debate and rationalism here. The ignorant levels of crap written leave me no choice but to challenge it. I'm sure a bunch of people lurking have just given up.
    I think Coyle is a good manager who gets a helluva lot out of young talents, Our Jack, Sturridge & Cahill are 3 players he's nurtured very well. Bolton play good football and he's bought very well there. I really don't think he'd be a bad choice, seriously.

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    Coyle hasn't really improved Bolton, they're pretty much where they were under Megson, just with better football to watch. Individual players for a short period of time? Yeah possibly but like I say, a short period of time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    /* says the 5 year old girl with her mothers lipstick and oversized grown up clothing during a mock tea party.

    Holloway/Coyle for Arsenal manager... Out of al the rejects you could have picked that would have at least contrasted with Wenger, you picked the two with the most similar flaws and no record of winning anything anywhere beyond promotion. This is the level of debate and rationalism here. The ignorant levels of crap written leave me no choice but to challenge it. I'm sure a bunch of people lurking have just given up.
    You think people with different opinions to yours are ignorant?

    rofl

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Coyle hasn't really improved Bolton, they're pretty much where they were under Megson, just with better football to watch. Individual players for a short period of time? Yeah possibly but like I say, a short period of time!
    Megson did OK in his first season, their great end to the season effectively saved him from the sack, obviously he rightly took the credit for keeping them up.

    In his second season they were awful, he was on track to relegate them, he's a master at that after all.

    Coyle has definitely improved them, not to the extent where they are a top 10 side...but they are decent enough none the less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    I think Coyle is a good manager who gets a helluva lot out of young talents, Our Jack, Sturridge & Cahill are 3 players he's nurtured very well. Bolton play good football and he's bought very well there. I really don't think he'd be a bad choice, seriously.
    He's a average to good manager who pretty much see's Wenger has his idol. Develops within his squad 1-2 decent players with the rest mediocre dross. He frequently demonstrates a similar tactical disposition to our current manager. Personally, if our aspirations were to be lowered as a club (ticket prices halved), I wouldn't mind, but you lot would hate the reality.

    Alex Mcleish or Ally McCoist would have been a manager I would have hated to see here, but at least have some record for success and have the type of character that contrasts with Wenger. Most of the stuff here is no better than saying Jerremy Clarkson should be the next King of England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    You think people with different opinions to yours are ignorant?

    rofl
    No, I think people who form their opinions off the back of ignorance, are ignorant.
    Last edited by AKBapologist; 06-09-2011 at 01:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    No, I think people who form their opinions off the back of ignorance, are ignorant.
    right, that's a lot better

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    to suggest that McCoist or Coyle or Holloway would be better than AW is preposterous. C'mon. Let's talk about first-class managers, ancelotti, Van Gaal, but those mentioned are managers for minor clubs.
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