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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    - but Letters is still hanging on to the "Wonders of Wenger"
    Yep, that's exactly what I've said

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    Jose took 20 minutes to solve the Cesc issue, you might never see him in the '2' again except for against the lowliest of sides. Wenger took 3 years to solve that one only after we we're struggling to get back into 4th and getting destroyed by the likes of Hull at home.

    Jose needed a DM, he got him.

    A striker, got three.

    Hazard is lightyears ahead of Ozil in terms of talent let alone actual play at a fraction of the price.

    Other managers see issues and address them. To not buy a central defender and CM....thats it. The end. Hes done.
    Most managers are flexible and can adjust tactics on the fly. Cesc will most likely play in as CM again for Jose but may also play as the number 10. You adjust depending on the opponent and especially if you have a player like Cesc that can play deep or further up. The problem with Wenger is that he needs to see something fail 50 times before adjusting his tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve French View Post
    We simply have to get . . rid of the Manager. Doing anything else now is a waste of time and money.
    That’s the only thing left. This is a brand new squad and the have the same hallmark traits as Wenger’s other teams that failed. He’s spent money and it’s still the same problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Yep, that's exactly what I've said
    Just remember the old saying - there's no river in Egypt called de nile!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1_nilto the arsenal View Post
    Wengers excuse of why Dortmunds energy levels were much than our woeful over paid priks. "They had an easier game at the weekend" Thats your pathetic reason of why we were over ran all over the park. Our defence never got a breather and were camped on our 18 yard line. It's a disaster and it will get much worse in the coming weeks.
    The worst thing is that he plays the same XI every week unless he's forced into a change and then wonders why we look so lethargic.

    We've got a lot of attacking depth up front - he needs to rotate and use it.

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    Wenger is going nowhere for 3 years. Let's just accept that.

    So what realistic possibilities are there, if any, to try and take advantage of the fact we have the likes of Ozil, Alexis, Ramsey, Ox, Cazorla, etc in the team. Last night if you'd have swapped the managers Klopp would have used our resources to give Dortmund a good hiding. We have better players than them, but we don't have a better team. Could we do something like try to provoke Wenger every game so he reacts and gets sent to the stands? Could we kidnap him on Saturday mornings? Move the stadium and not tell him where it is? Hold up big signs during the match begging him not to do the things we want him to do, so he does them? Get our own substitution board and whistle so we can make changes during the match? Hire our really crappy cousins to pose as young French or African footballers and send Wenger on endless scouting trips to watch them?

    There must be something that can be done?
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    The players we have are set up for a pacey game, the painfully slow style we have just makes them look really ordinary, alas Wenger is still obsessed with creating a mini Barcelona, this time one that can't even pass that well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Not against City.
    Heard we were pretty good vs Besiktas (sp) at home too but I didn't see that one.
    The way we stood off Dortmund yesterday is the same way we stood off Man City over the weekend. We were exposed yesterday because we faced a team that pressed higher up the pitch and have a mean passing game. That's the difference. We haven't been playing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    The way we stood off Dortmund yesterday is the same way we stood off Man City over the weekend. We were exposed yesterday because we faced a team that pressed higher up the pitch and have a mean passing game. That's the difference. We haven't been playing well.
    We bossed the City game till they scored, that did take the wind out of our sails.
    Last night we were getting hammered from the get go.
    There's no comparison in terms of the performance.

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    We cannot compete consistently at the top level with the players we have. Mourinho would have struggled last night with the players we have, ofcourse he may have attempted to change things tactically which he can do, Wenger can't, but if you have a slow dinosaur at the back & a non existant annoying little Spaniard protecting the back 4 along with a non winger/non moving German who thinks he's too good for us, a welshmen who's forgotten he was good last year & a striker who is a known non-finisher then you're in trouble.
    To still have players in the starting 11 like Arteta, Merts & Gibbs & with back up like Flamini, Monreal & Sonogo in important positions, we are not going to compete & we are showing no ambition to do so.
    This ofcourse is all down to Wenger. The FA cup win whilst getting the monkey off our back has actually derailed any quick future progress as we have shot ourselves in the foot with his 3 year contract. That contract should have been given to him on the basis that we show ambition to compete by strengthening the squad where needed WITHOUT FAIL. If Wenger accepted this but said "it will cost you" then its up to the board to back him.
    To not have decent defensive cover, to not have a quality defensive midfielder, to only buy a striker on the last day of the window by "luck" - in Wengers own words, when we have needed one for 3 years is nothing short of negligence by Wenger & others have lost their jobs for far less.
    What I would give for a board member to have the bollocks to tell him a few home truths. I firmly believe he wasn't going to buy a striker on the last day, the press put him under pressure to do the obvious all of that week - now the press are asking about our need for a defensive midfielder. It should embarras him that he isn't acting on areas of weakness that CANNOT be argued by anyone & that members of the press can attack him on this. He's attacked for not having a striker in the team, he responds that he has quality strikers in Podolski, Samchez, Walcott, Campbell & doesn't need anymore - he buys Welbeck. Yesterday he is asked why he wont buy a proper defensive midfeilder, he responds " If I find one better than the one Ive got then I'll buy one" - really Arsene, no one better than Arteta in DM in world football, there are plenty but you won't pay for whats required.
    If these performances continue & they will, if our board have any ambition at all they must give him NO option but to strengthen in the Jan window. It will give us a better chance to finish 4th & maybe have another cup run, but above all to start to compete against the big teams.
    I'm afraid the guy is an danger of becoming a real hindrance to AFC & the people around him shouldn't allow that to happen - we do have a lot to be grateful for & thats how he should be remembered.

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