Needs to go.
I'd keep an eye on this thread once we go through the yearly 8-9 unbeaten run. There will be an upswing for him to stay then.![]()
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
To be fair it was only a few months ago we won the Cup and seemed to be signing some decent players in the summer.
I thing most people thought he deserved a chance then.
As crap as we've been this season so far we have only lost one game and only got one really poor result, at Leicester.
It was the manner of the defeat on Tuesday that upset me, we looked so hopelessly out of our depth.
Been saying it for a long time that the man is beyond his sell date. He's what stands between the Club and properly competing for top honours.
He's had his chances to leave while he still had his legacy intact. Now, I fear he'll leave in a most unceremoniously manner, as with the money excuse out the window, even the most blinkered of disciples are starting to see how inept he is.
The man is manager of one the the biggest football clubs in the world and goes into a long season, competing on four fronts, with only 6 defenders, seriously? Two of which are kids, mind you.
Throw into the mix that we have an utterly lightweight and pointless Arteta still tasked with protecting the back 4 and it becomes inescapably clear that we have a total looney bin as our puppeteer at the Emirates.
I can't stand 2 more seasons of this rot, tbh, so I've moved over to indifferent to all our results and how we fare in all competitions until he fuck off to where ever.
No. No No
Scotland too. No
In short Wenger go, Scotland stay
I've gone with 'go', although that's not a particularly angry reaction to the way we've started the season - I just think that, at 64 years old, it's a reality that we're going to have to deal with before too much longer anyway, so it's really just a question of managing when it happens? As much as I love the stubborn old goat for everything he's done for us, and would love to see him start smashing all before him again, I have to say that I'm finding it increasingly hard to defend some of the ongoing problems that we keep seeing on the pitch, and have very much started thinking that sooner would probably be better than later.
And I also think there's an argument to be made that we're paying a colossal salary to a manager to run all aspects of the club, when the game at the top level has moved on from those days, and we probably need more of a head coach, who's responsibilities begin and end with the first team? The rest of the club really should be able to take care of itself now in a far more modular fashion.
Having said all that though, I don't think there's any immediate rush to get rid of him either (e.g. right now, or 'if things haven't improved by Christmas...', etc)? CL income is no longer critical to us (in light of our new sponsorship deals, and the massive boost that every PL club has received from the latest TV deal/s), and we now have a core of players who I don't think would jump ship if we missed out on the top 4, so we could probably absorb a dodgy season and a shit finishing position if we had to. This is more about pride than survival for us now, and pride isn't anything that will kill us - whilst I'm sure our current woes will be getting tedious for a lot of Arsenal fans now, we can at least afford to take our time, and make sure we get our next move right, and if that means Wenger staying on for a bit longer then I'll carry on supporting him and the club...
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I felt he should have left with his head held high after the cup win, however I think he also deserved a chance to spend some of the new money that wasn't previously available to him. There was some cause for optimism after winning the cup and landing a player like Sanchez but it seems like we're not really much stronger as a team, arguably weaker right now thanks to the regression of a defence that was previously ok.
He shot himself in the foot in the transfer window, for the first time in years he had backing from the masses but now he's back to square one. Not signing adequate numbers in defence was just plain foolish and he completely missed a trick by not bringing Cesc back or at least finding an upgrade on Flamini/Arteta.
We're consistently exposed against sides of quality and even the lesser teams are able to really get stuck into us. There is no tactical nous, the team play like they've just been told to go out there and do their thing, they start every match like they're on auto-pilot and only seem to react when they've been caught cold. Why does he persist with such an ineffective style of play? We have a fair bit of pace now and Giroud is out of the picture, so why not mix things up. Square pegs in round holes everywhere hoping to replicate some sort of lite version of tiki-taka.
The problem is the man doesn't give a damn about we think, if anything the more we complain about something the more he'll turn a blind eye to it. He's too far gone and stuck in his ways, there's nothing progressive or innovative about what he's doing anymore, it's stale and there are a host of younger managers who have more going for them now. People say we couldn't have signed someone like Ozil without him which is true, but what good is that when he can't even extract the required quality out of him. That guy looks like an absolute shell of a player under Wenger's management, not too dissimilar to other previously highly rated players who have been and gone over the past 5-6 years.
He's been a top manager for us but unless there is dramatic success coming over the next 3 years, he's going to leave with his legacy tarnished and that's just sad because he is a great man who has put this club in a position we couldn't have dreamed about 20 years ago.
Is that your longest poast ever moe?