Wenger Referendum: Yes Or No

[Maestro]

myopic dunderheads

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That's not really part of the debate we can explore much as fans. Knowledge contained behind closed doors will always be ahead of what we know out here. Who is available and who isn't really something we can base this decision on. The only sensible criteria is to look Wenger's management over the past few years. We can't guarantee the next guy will be better even if he has a proven record elsewhere. The only single guarantee is that Wenger will not change. Remember we knew nothing about this guy before he utterly transformed our club.

what are you talking about?...we can't actually influence any part of this.....wenger won't go because of what the fans want.....he is here until 2017 so the whole exercise is academic.

We are having a debate whether he should go, and again i have said consistently if the right person is brought in to replace him than yes, otherwise it would be pointless.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not as cowardly as the myopic dunderheads on here who know Wenger is the main problem at the club but don't want him to leave simply because he brings the guarantee of 4th place. To what end is the 4th place? because we are never going to win the CL under him. More to the point, his continued ineptitude in this competition brings the whole rationale of the 4th place into jeopardy. Currently EPL, La Liga and the Bundesliga have 4 places. Serie A lost 1 place to the bundesliga as Italian teams started to toil. The same could happen here If we continue to flounder, all it takes is for 1 Italian team to probably reach the final or win it for the EPL card to be marked. The very thing we hold dear above all could be our Waterloo. It would be better for the English league for us to drop out and a team with the means and manager to take our place.

Sadly I dont think, even 5th place would be enough for the man to resign, he doesn't have enough pride for that and will probably still see out his contract

If you want Wenger replaced then do it properly instead of trying to kill him with toys being lobbed out of a pram. There's 1001 more things to consider than one performance against Dortmund. He's signed a contract and he's here for the next few seasons. We all know his flaws on the pitch, but we also know his strengths off it and overall it bodes well for the right man to be be brought in at the right time and in the right way.

[Globalgunner]

Its only toys out of the pram because you say so. In reality its 10 years of the same anodyne shit

[The Dismantler]

wenger out, he is like a dictator now....

[Niall_Quinn]

Its only toys out of the pram because you say so. In reality its 10 years of the same anodyne shit

No, mostly everyone was calm enough going in on the back of a few good signings. Perplexed at the defence for sure, in full realisation things haven't changed in terms of tactics etc, sure. Normal stuff that comes from the 10 years you mention. But no Wenger out campaign. The last game ratcheted that up again. All pointless because he's here and nothing will be changing for the next few seasons.

[Globalgunner]

No, mostly everyone was calm enough going in on the back of a few good signings. Perplexed at the defence for sure, in full realisation things haven't changed in terms of tactics etc, sure. Normal stuff that comes from the 10 years you mention. But no Wenger out campaign. The last game ratcheted that up again. All pointless because he's here and nothing will be changing for the next few seasons.

You argue like a woman who always has to get the last word even though its to say the same thing over and over again. The OP asked a rhetorical question. Wenger in or out?. People have voted based on seeing us not progress even though the players have changed. If we only discussed issues here that the powers that be would read and act on. Then the only thing that would be valid to talk about is that you are not Irish and actually was born in Kenya, living here on a false passport.

[Niall_Quinn]

More the nature of a forum I think. One person says something, the other responds, and so on. Wasn't really a rhetorical poll as that would be utterly pointless by default, if you think about it. More a theoretical question. In theory, Wenger in because by the time his contract ends, even if we haven't won a thing, we'll be in a glorious position for the right man to step in. Theoretically, getting rid of him now might yield a result, or it could produce a van Gaal. No point doing it when we know that Wenger is the tried and tested guy to deliver the best platform on which the next guy can take us up a level.

[I am invisible]

Interesting listening to the 606 drive-time phone-in yesterday - as expected, a few unhappy United fans shaking their heads at what they're seeing, but, more surprisingly, quite a few worried Liverpool and Everton fans phoning in too (really surprised by the amount of criticism Martinez was getting)?

Not sure why I'm sticking this in here really - perspective, I guess? Whilst I'm still of the opinion that we probably won't seriously challenge for the big prizes again under Wenger (I just can't see him ever addressing a couple of the ongoing problems that keep cropping up), it's still worth having a look at what's going on around you every now and then. Chelsea might be off to a flier, but all of the other big sides in the league have made pretty inconsistent, erratic starts to the campaign, and, in terms of the league, we're actually ahead of Man City, Liverpool, Man U, Everton and spufs? Things aren't perfect, but they're not that bad either...

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Not as cowardly as the myopic dunderheads on here who know Wenger is the main problem at the club but don't want him to leave simply because he brings the guarantee of 4th place. To what end is the 4th place? because we are never going to win the CL under him. More to the point, his continued ineptitude in this competition brings the whole rationale of the 4th place into jeopardy. Currently EPL, La Liga and the Bundesliga have 4 places. Serie A lost 1 place to the bundesliga as Italian teams started to toil. The same could happen here If we continue to flounder, all it takes is for 1 Italian team to probably reach the final or win it for the EPL card to be marked. The very thing we hold dear above all could be our Waterloo. It would be better for the English league for us to drop out and a team with the means and manager to take our place.

Sadly I dont think, even 5th place would be enough for the man to resign, he doesn't have enough pride for that and will probably still see out his contract

Post of the year tbh