Anderlecht vs Arsenal. 22nd Oct. 19:45

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

What utter drivel.

You apologists sure know how to paint a rosy outlook in times if frustration, don't you?

Looking at our team getting shitter and shitter, what good state do you expect Wenger to hand over things in to a new manager after 2 1/2 more seasons? What will be better then than now?

That manager will have some task rebuilding this team, adding some bottle and instilling a winning mentality in and around the Club. As such, I say we get on with the job early. Ideally, Wenger Out by the time the January window opens.

Excellent post.

[Letters]

The exchange between Özil's Panoramic View and Letters pretty much sums up the internet.

"Come on and use your shit stats to refute my water-tight argument if you're hard enough."

Letters uses basic stats and proves point simply enough.

"LOL @ Letters."

He hasn't compared me to the Nazis yet. Once he does that I think we're done here.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Excellent post.

You guys are like the Republican Party, you live in a bubble and can only conduct proper discourse amongst yourselves and you characterise people who don't agree with you as something they are not. Like calling me pro Wenger except if you knew me or saw any of my posts on Facebook you'd know that's not the case).
The football isn't great at the moment but its been pretty much the same for the past five years, so I don't know why your getting your panties in a twist about Wenger needing to be extricated from the club.
We aren't going to win the title whoever we have, and whoever we buy in January.....results and performances are pretty average but we aren't in crisis, and until such time it seems pointless turfing out a manager mid-season.
Do I wish there was someone different at the helm?....ideally yes as much as I still like Wenger on a personal level he's given us all he's got and there is no room for sentiment in this game. My issue runs deeper than him though, and I harbour a lot of resentment towards David Dein without whom I doubt any of us would have ever heard the names E.Stanley Kroenke and Alisher Usmanov.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

YOU lot think Wenger is still the right man for the club, 10 years after he's done anything of note, and WE'RE the ones living in a bubble??!!

[Letters]

YOU lot think Wenger is still the right man for the club:

Yep. That's exactly what HCZ said.

[GP]

Good win.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Yep. That's exactly what HCZ said.

You lot stick up for him when it's now clear it's all his fault, and always has been.

Huge triumph for the wenger out lot on goonersweb. We were right all along

[Özil's Panoramic View]

You guys are like the Republican Party, you live in a bubble and can only conduct proper discourse amongst yourselves and you characterise people who don't agree with you as something they are not. Like calling me pro Wenger except if you knew me or saw any of my posts on Facebook you'd know that's not the case).
The football isn't great at the moment but its been pretty much the same for the past five years, so I don't know why your getting your panties in a twist about Wenger needing to be extricated from the club.
We aren't going to win the title whoever we have, and whoever we buy in January.....results and performances are pretty average but we aren't in crisis, and until such time it seems pointless turfing out a manager mid-season.
Do I wish there was someone different at the helm?....ideally yes as much as I still like Wenger on a personal level he's given us all he's got and there is no room for sentiment in this game. My issue runs deeper than him though, and I harbour a lot of resentment towards David Dein without whom I doubt any of us would have ever heard the names E.Stanley Kroenke and Alisher Usmanov.

Except that no one has claimed the bit in bold, right?

All we are saying is, the sooner we start the rebuilding process under a new more tactically astute manager, one who sees the obvious squad deficiencies and takes steps in the transfer market to address them, one who studies the opposition and comes up with a game plan accordingly, and one who doesn't make predetermined substitution comes in, the better.

Been saying ever since I joined this forum that Wenger is a spent force living off past glories and buoyed by a cult following. Was mocked, ridiculed, derided and patronised for that bit.

Glad to see some blinkers coming off now.

Ffs u know it just is no longer worth fighting for when even our dear friend Ollie has tossed in the towel.

GW.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Except that no one has claimed the bit in bold, right?

All we are saying is, the sooner we start the rebuilding process under a new more tactically astute manager, one who sees the obvious squad deficiencies and takes steps in the transfer market to address them, one who studies the opposition and comes up with a game plan accordingly, and one who doesn't make predetermined substitution comes in, the better.

Been saying ever since I joined this forum that Wenger is a spent force living off past glories and buoyed by a cult following. Was mocked, ridiculed, derided and patronised for that bit.

Glad to see some blinkers coming off now.

Ffs u know it just is no longer worth fighting for when even our dear friend Ollie has tossed in the towel.

GW.

You really don't need to quote my entire post if you are only going to criticise a sentence of it.

Again you seem to misunderstand what the point is, I don't think for a second those who have your opinion believe we will win anything big if we ditch Wenger, the point I am making is that as much as you want to make out the club is in crisis it really isn't, in fact Letters statistics back up the stagnation argument things aren't getting worse but I think we all agree that it's not acceptable that things aren't getting better.

But for me a club has to be in crisis to countenance sacking its manager mid season and it would set a terrible precedent. Do I really want Wenger here till 2017, not really but looking purely from the boards point of view there certainly isn't any grounds for dismissal either.

Maybe he will get fed up and walk away at the end of the season, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

You lot stick up for him when it's now clear it's all his fault, and always has been.

Huge triumph for the wenger out lot on goonersweb. We were right all along

Well if you only respond to what you think people say as opposed to what they are saying then you aren't ever going to be wrong because essentially your only arguing with yourself.

I certainly don't know anyone who believes Wenger can take the club forward, I just don't see anyone say this?. People like me say the following

A) The results this season are pretty average but they do not constitute the kind of crisis that would make the instant dismissal of the manager in the middle of the season warranted or desirable, to properly replace a manager this is best done at the end of the season.

B) Whatever we want, we all know that Wenger and only Wenger will decide how long he remains manager at the club. If however there is any suggestion in a year or so of him extending his contract post 2017 than you will find me jumping ship to protest with you guys. However I don't think that will happen I think within 18 months I believe he will make public his plan to retire in 2017