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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Tony Adams - exactly, you are hailing back to a time where leadership on the pitch made a difference
    On what basis would you say that's changed then?
    Are you arguing it's because they earn so much money now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It's not a bad thing it's just a myth that it makes any difference

    Players are either good or they aren't, the managers tactics are either good or they aren't

    In this day and age it doesn't really matter who your captain is if you have quality of players and tangible tactics
    A myth in your own weird world - captains not being important on the pitch, FFS.

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    I watched that last night, switched off, and went to bed and had a long peaceful nights sleep.

    It happens too often now to get depressed about it.

    I find I'm much happier without too much football nowadays. It stinks, it's corrupt and there's too much money in it.

    I was soooo happy we got the FA Cup last year, and so I think I've drawn a line under it now. Unless football cleans itself up, I don't think I want to waste my life on it anymore.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    I think it's contributed
    I think the general attitude has changed
    With multi millionaires everywhere and agents whispering in people's ears, the ego of your average footballer is inflated to the point where they don't respond as well to people with stronger personalities.

    But my main point was dismissing the idea that Vieira had a leaders personality, he didnt, he was physically imposing, strong and naturally athletic. But personality wise he was weak, quick to temper and you didnt see him talking to his team mates. He was given the captaincy to stop him from leaving nothing more.

    I agree that even if leadership was an issue we have no players with strong personalities, just very dull, spoilt rich boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    I watched that last night, switched off, and went to bed and had a long peaceful nights sleep.

    It happens too often now to get depressed about it.

    I find I'm much happier without too much football nowadays. It stinks, it's corrupt and there's too much money in it.

    I was soooo happy we got the FA Cup last year, and so I think I've drawn a line under it now. Unless football cleans itself up, I don't think I want to waste my life on it anymore.
    I pretty much completely agree with you, the thing is I keep telling myself I won't waste my time on it but keep getting drawn back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    I watched that last night, switched off, and went to bed and had a long peaceful nights sleep.

    It happens too often now to get depressed about it.

    I find I'm much happier without too much football nowadays. It stinks, it's corrupt and there's too much money in it.

    I was soooo happy we got the FA Cup last year, and so I think I've drawn a line under it now. Unless football cleans itself up, I don't think I want to waste my life on it anymore.
    I think a lot of people will end up feeling like this. I used to love boxing too - then money became the point and I haven't watched since. Used to watch American football when they had a fair draft system and before the big free agency changes came in, now it's a joke. Modern sport = small minority of greedy fuckers positioning themselves to squeeze the fans (entertainment and credibility optional). Formula 1, two teams can't even make the grid because some horrible little shit of a crook hasn't got enough billions yet. We need to put the sport back into sport and that will mean kicking the crooks out. We can't expect the governing bodies to do it because look at any sport and they are the most corrupt of all. Fans will need to do it and I have no problem whatsoever with violence if need be in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    A myth in your own weird world - captains not being important on the pitch, FFS.
    Just think its so called influence is massively overstated now

    Germany would have won the World Cup without Lahm (and I really rate Lahm)
    Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 05-11-2014 at 11:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    I watched that last night, switched off, and went to bed and had a long peaceful nights sleep.

    It happens too often now to get depressed about it.

    I find I'm much happier without too much football nowadays. It stinks, it's corrupt and there's too much money in it.

    I was soooo happy we got the FA Cup last year, and so I think I've drawn a line under it now. Unless football cleans itself up, I don't think I want to waste my life on it anymore.


    I keep an eye on it and of course was pleased we won the Cup but my main reaction last night was: LOL!
    I'm too old to be that arsed any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Just think its so called influence is massively overstated now

    Germany would have won the World Cup without Lahm (and I really rate Lahm)
    We are not Germany or Real Madrid. We have nowhere near the quality of individual per position that these teams have. They hardly ever have to adopt a different approach during a game & they don't have limited individuals needing guidance. We unfortunately do, which is why We need a leader on the pitch. If you made Arteta captain of either Real Madrid or Germany, they would still win things but because of Wengers' pursuit of trying to polish turds we are not in that position.

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    How shit has Ramsey been this season btw? The old bad habits have managed to creep back in to his game.

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