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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Man United and Liverpool are in an even worse state than we are

    And ill make a pledge here and now, I will give £50 to charity if we don't finish in the top four.

    And I will document this and post it on the site to show I've done this
    Good for you and I for one hope that you are right. My problem is that others see where they are going wrong but seemingly Wenger does not

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodders View Post
    Good for you and I for one hope that you are right. My problem is that others see where they are going wrong but seemingly Wenger does not
    Don't see that Brendan Rodgers or Luis Van Gaal are learning from their mistakes

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    Brendan Rodgers for me has been massively found out, he has the opposite problem Wenger has where as Wenger prevaricates and agonises over a signing, Rodgers doesn't give his transfers any real thought and he has wasted a lot of money on players that either don't fit into his system (Balotelli) or just aren't good enough

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    Southampton are doing tremendously well but where as Wenger stubbornly refuses to rotate, Southampton don't have the strength in depth to allow them to and it will catch up with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It tells me that no-one has the presence of mind to stand up to him, do you think Wenger would walk if Gazidis or Keswick said you need to delegate more Arsene....would he fuck?

    The likelihood is that Sanchez was bought with Wenger having no say in the transfer negotiation as he was in Brazil at the time? Wenger just accepted it.

    I do agree with you when you say he's a control freak, but I also don't believe he's the type of person to cause a conflict if some things were taken from his control.
    Is there no wifi in Brazil? Was Sanchez and his agent not in Brazil at the same time as Wenger? There is no evidence of any player being signed without Wenger's consent. Just speculation.

    I really don't know how Wenger would react if power were to be wrestled from his hands. There was speculation of a rift between him a Steve Bould and it's just speculation but weigh up what's just been posted up about Wenger and delegating tasks to other coaches and there might be something there. I wouldn't rule it out. Wenger has his own way and just look how Bould has morphed into a carbon copy of Pat Rice. He sits on his hands right next to Wenger and says nothing. Just like Pat Rice did. There was talk of Bould not getting much time alone with the defenders, also stuff about us not studying the opposition using video...he's very hands on. If he believe our style of play should be a certain way, I don't know how someone from within the camp can change his way of thinking, especially if they haven't got that much experience either.

    Can Gazidis appoint a more experienced coaches to have direct input on what the first team do? I have no idea if that's possible. But he has appointed new youth coaches and a fitness coach so it's possible. But this is worth a read.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/...-arsene-wenger

    Asked whether he could envisage Kroenke spending big on a player without consulting the manager and then demanding that the player be picked, Wenger chuckled and replied: "I don't think he would do that. We will run the club with the technical department having the decision on what is technical. For all the rest I have of course to answer to Stan Kroenke and I am ready to do that for any questions, but I run the technical department."
    http://www.tribalfootball.com/arsena...terfere-399991
    Yet the Frenchman made it clear he would have no problem with Kroenke if the American did not interfere with the way he runs the football side of the club.

    Wenger said: "The only important thing is the club is run properly in every department. The most important department in any football club is what is happening on the pitch.

    "As long as whoever owns the club doesn't interfere with what we do on the pitch, then for me it's OK.

    "I spoke to Stan Kroenke at the club's AGM.

    "He's really interested in sport because he has two or three clubs in the States. He's interested in sport, he's interested in football but I do not ask him specifically why he invests at Arsenal. It's not my problem."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Southampton are doing tremendously well but where as Wenger stubbornly refuses to rotate, Southampton don't have the strength in depth to allow them to and it will catch up with them
    The odd thing is they're not doing all that differently to last season at this point. 25 points to 22. They've actually lost a game more this season (they drew 4 by this point last season) and have conceded the same number; 5. They have obviously scored more but that's in no small part down to that freak game against a pretty pathetic Sunderland.

    Incidentally, it was at this time last season (coming back from this international break) that they went on a pretty horrible run of form. After Villa they play City, Arsenal and United...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balotelli Is Boss View Post
    The odd thing is they're not doing all that differently to last season at this point. 25 points to 22. They've actually lost a game more this season (they drew 4 by this point last season) and have conceded the same number; 5. They have obviously scored more but that's in no small part down to that freak game against a pretty pathetic Sunderland.

    Incidentally, it was at this time last season (coming back from this international break) that they went on a pretty horrible run of form. After Villa they play City, Arsenal and United...
    Very true they have only twice faced teams that finished in the top seven last season and lost both of them, but considering how many players they lost (mainly to yourselves) the fact they have been able to continue in the same vein as last season is quite remarkable, it shows that the manager is largely unimportant if the infrastructure at the club is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Is there no wifi in Brazil? Was Sanchez and his agent not in Brazil at the same time as Wenger? There is no evidence of any player being signed without Wenger's consent. Just speculation.

    I really don't know how Wenger would react if power were to be wrestled from his hands. There was speculation of a rift between him a Steve Bould and it's just speculation but weigh up what's just been posted up about Wenger and delegating tasks to other coaches and there might be something there. I wouldn't rule it out. Wenger has his own way and just look how Bould has morphed into a carbon copy of Pat Rice. He sits on his hands right next to Wenger and says nothing. Just like Pat Rice did. There was talk of Bould not getting much time alone with the defenders, also stuff about us not studying the opposition using video...he's very hands on. If he believe our style of play should be a certain way, I don't know how someone from within the camp can change his way of thinking, especially if they haven't got that much experience either.

    Can Gazidis appoint a more experienced coaches to have direct input on what the first team do? I have no idea if that's possible. But he has appointed new youth coaches and a fitness coach so it's possible. But this is worth a read.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/...-arsene-wenger



    http://www.tribalfootball.com/arsena...terfere-399991
    My point is the transfers that were undertaken were done in a much more timely manner, I'm sure Wenger spoke with Sanchez and his agent in Brazil (I'm not for a second saying Sanchez was signed without Wengers permission) but I think Wenger was more instrumental in convincing Sanchez in coming to us, and Dick Law was more responsible for agreeing a fee with Barcelona and agreeing a wage with player and agent. Yes of course speculative on my part, but compare it to the farago with Real Madrid and Higuain the previous summer and something has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Very true they have only twice faced teams that finished in the top seven last season and lost both of them, but considering how many players they lost (mainly to yourselves) the fact they have been able to continue in the same vein as last season is quite remarkable, it shows that the manager is largely unimportant if the infrastructure at the club is correct.
    So it shouldn't matter that "Brendan Rodgers has been...massively found out".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post


    That guy in the hat is a bloody bellend
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