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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Yes, you can tell by what a sulky arse he is when things are going wrong how happy he is.
    The problem is the faults of the team/squad are his own doing. It's not like he has inherited this squad, he's built this unbalanced squad and is now suffering the consequences. Of course there are issues with tactics, recurring injuries etc.

    Sure he is not happy with not winning but he most certainly isn't doing enough to ensure we go into the season with the best chance of winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Yes, you can tell by what a sulky arse he is when things are going wrong how happy he is.
    What does he actually do about it though? Sulking is one thing but it all seems far too shortlived for him, he's full of excuses in interviews and never fixes glaring issues.

    To me that's a sign of someone that doesn't see winning as the be all and end all, there's other top managers that clearly show how much winning means to them and how important it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    What does he actually do about it though? Sulking is one thing but it all seems far too shortlived for him, he's full of excuses in interviews and never fixes glaring issues.

    To me that's a sign of someone that doesn't see winning as the be all and end all, there's other top managers that clearly show how much winning means to them and how important it is.
    But wenger throws his arms really high in the air when we lose, so he cares!

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    Is it that hard? Really? You can't remember that side with Bergkamp and Henry in? I do, it was awesome.
    I might not remember individual games in detail but I can remember plenty of individual moments.
    I agree about Wenger to an extent, if he'd left in the mid 'noughties' he'd have been rightly remembered as a true great.
    Even now I think he should be seen as a bit more than 'good' but I doubt he'll be seen as an all time great.
    I still think he'd sit alongside Chapman as our most important manager though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    What does he actually do about it though? Sulking is one thing but it all seems far too shortlived for him, he's full of excuses in interviews and never fixes glaring issues.

    To me that's a sign of someone that doesn't see winning as the be all and end all, there's other top managers that clearly show how much winning means to them and how important it is.
    To me it's the sign of someone who doesn't have the ability to do anything about it, I don't for one minute think it's a lack of desire to.

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    If it's ability because of money, that is not true anymore, so he has to go.

    If it's ability because of his skills, then you've just proved he's no longer good enough, so has to go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    If it's ability because of money, that is not true anymore, so he has to go.

    If it's ability because of his skills, then you've just proved he's no longer good enough, so has to go.

    Everyone agrees he has to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Everyone agrees he has to go
    Everyone except the people who have any influence over when he goes
    Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 14-11-2014 at 12:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Everyone except the people who have any influence over when he goes
    Their criteria of 'success' is very different from the fans' though.

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    The fans who provide from their own pockets a fair chunk of the revenue they enjoy

    And it's not just the board, it's the two main shareholders

    On one hand we have Enos Stanley Kroenke for whom the club is the cherry on his financial portfolio cake

    On the other hand we have Alisher Usmanov; a rapist, a gangster and a Putin apparatchik

    Fucked doesn't do it justice

    Thanks David Dein

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