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    In truth there's only one topic in town. How to get rid of Wenger
    BBC sport linked us to Cristoph Kramer today. Good player, was at the WC for Germany but doesnt remember playing. Rather him than Khedira.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    To be fair, a younger version of Wenger won things and provided us the most blindingly exciting football I've ever seen.

    It was a fucking privilege watching us then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    No he wouldn't.

    He'd buy strong, powerful players instead of small, feeble players. He'd play counter-attacking football instead of slow, tippy tappy shit. He'd invest in experienced players (who remembers picking up the paper and hearing that we'd signed world cup winner gilberto silva, what a masterstroke that was). He also wasn't as stubborn as he is now.
    Crying for the moon
    Wenger of those days never frustrated fans in the transfer market and insisted on getting players in from the bargain basement, he always strengthened his side when we needed to (cough sarcasm)
    The fact is the players he brought in that are physically strong and would cost 3-4million and now cost 30-40million Wengers trick was to bring players to prominence that few other clubs had heard of, the thing is with you tube, international scouting etc most clubs are wise to this trick now and in this day and age you cannot get top quality in on the cheap.
    Wenger wouldn't spend 30million on a defender then, and I don't think he's any more likely to now
    We did play a more counter attacking style of play, but the accusation of being over elaborate existed long before 2005, even in the days of Pires, Henry and Vieira we were often trying to score the perfect goal and would get bogged down in short passing.
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    Wenger spent on players. He invested to address the key deficiencies of the team. Not only did he do that, he bought good players instead of the junk we've had recently. If we got that Wenger back we'd be far better off. No doubt about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    Wenger spent on players. He invested to address the key deficiencies of the team. Not only did he do that, he bought good players instead of the junk we've had recently. If we got that Wenger back we'd be far better off. No doubt about it.
    Rose tinted spectacles, more often than not we made more money from player sales than player purchases even prior to 2005, we often have a paper thin squad even when we had a decent XI....and like I say it was easier and cheaper to buy decent players in the first eight or nine years of his reign because the other big clubs hadn't caught up yet. We tactically were no better than we are now, but Wengers abilities as a talent spotter usually made up for it.
    Now days I'm sure he can still recognise talented players he doesn't want to pay the prices.

    The only seasons we spent big prior to 2005 were 2000 and 2001, 2000 we had sold Overmars and Petit and still had Anelka money, 2001 contrary to your insistence with the exception of Sol Campbell who joined us on a free our summer purchases were shite

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    You have a point HCZ. Wenger was known for finding diamonds in the rough for cheap. The Emirates project wouldn't had been greenlit without his transfer record. He already had a rep for spending less than most teams in the Prem during the Highbury years.

    I think our style of play has evolved to a slower build up but I think that's a result of teams in the Prem being more tactifcally aware and the sort of players we now buy. Power and pace has gone out the window and we've bought a lot of technical midgets and wannabe numbers 10s. But overall, I think 'total football', short passing game has always been in our blood under Wenger. It seems different now because we've taken pace out of the team and out opposition play a different brand. But if you listen to The Invincibles speak of that era or even Wenger, players wanted to craft that perfect passing goal. It was all unselfish player and each player being able to provide a well times assist. I don't think that idea has gone out the window which is why we have tippy tappy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    You have a point HCZ. Wenger was known for finding diamonds in the rough for cheap. The Emirates project wouldn't had been greenlit without his transfer record. He already had a rep for spending less than most teams in the Prem during the Highbury years.

    I think our style of play has evolved to a slower build up but I think that's a result of teams in the Prem being more tactifcally aware and the sort of players we now buy. Power and pace has gone out the window and we've bought a lot of technical midgets and wannabe numbers 10s. But overall, I think 'total football', short passing game has always been in our blood under Wenger. It seems different now because we've taken pace out of the team and out opposition play a different brand. But if you listen to The Invincibles speak of that era or even Wenger, players wanted to craft that perfect passing goal. It was all unselfish player and each player being able to provide a well times assist. I don't think that idea has gone out the window which is why we have tippy tappy.

    Exactly, the play is only slightly adjusted from one touch pass and move to two or three touch football, it was more adaptive of who he considered the focal pointin his side. From 1998 to 2004 it was Patrick Vieira and afterwards it was Cesc Fabregas.

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    Wenger is going to offer Diaby a new contract if he gets past his current injury
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ne-Wenger.html

    There's our fuckin CDM guys.

    Fucking joke

    Is Wenger getting 'something' in return for letting the crock on £60k a week for fuck all?

    Enough is enough.

    I will be pissed

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    Anyone know anything about Tyrone Mings?
    Never heard of him myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    Wenger is going to offer Diaby a new contract if he gets past his current injury
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ne-Wenger.html

    There's our fuckin CDM guys.

    Fucking joke

    Is Wenger getting 'something' in return for letting the crock on £60k a week for fuck all?

    Enough is enough.

    I will be pissed
    Used to be you had to actually do something to get a new contract. Now new deals are on rails, you don't even have to play football to get a football contract. It's getting like the civil service. Turn up at a specific time, hang around, go home, bank the cash. It's a laugh because some other poor fucker is picking up the tab, whether it be the taxpayer or increasingly abused football fans. Diaby has done NOTHING to warrant a new contract and as shown no signs whatsoever of recovering from his world record bout of injuries. You have to hope this is Wenger realising the player will never recover and setting a condition that will be easy to activate when it comes time to push him out the door. Don't think so though. Maybe Diaby has some dirt on Wenger or somebody else at the club. At this late stage the reason for him still being within a mile of the club must be fairly weird.

    Other news there is about Kos. Sounds like he's playing injured. That bodes well.
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