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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    A strong captain apparently prevents us from shipping goals, from having no tactics, from defensive fuck ups.
    Nope. Didn't say any of that

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    I thought we played ok this game - and against Dortmund and West Brom.
    Much better than at the start of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sibreen View Post
    I thought we played ok this game - and against Dortmund and West Brom.
    Much better than at the start of the season.
    We're the second most boring team in world football, after the chavs. The only thing we excel at is frustrating the fuck out of increasingly disillusioned and disinterested fans. We need to change everything about the way we approach and play games. Then we might be playing okay, but as it stands there's nothing to commend this string of soul crushing non-performances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Nope. Didn't say any of that
    Wenger's successful sides had a strong captain, Adams then Vieira. We've not had one since. No way are we slipping from 3-0 up vs Anderlecht to draw with a proper captain. There's no-one out there rallying them when things start going wrong. I don't see that as the manager's role, that's where a strong captain steps in but we don't have one.
    Let me guess, you meant something else now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Nope. Didn't say any of that
    Wenger's successful sides had a strong captain, Adams then Vieira. We've not had one since. No way are we slipping from 3-0 up vs Anderlecht to draw with a proper captain. There's no-one out there rallying them when things start going wrong. I don't see that as the manager's role, that's where a strong captain steps in but we don't have one.
    Let me guess, you meant something else now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    We're the second most boring team in world football, after the chavs. The only thing we excel at is frustrating the fuck out of increasingly disillusioned and disinterested fans. We need to change everything about the way we approach and play games. Then we might be playing okay, but as it stands there's nothing to commend this string of soul crushing non-performances.
    The problem is we do not have the bodies in central midfield to make the style of play that we want to and should play tenable, our slight and slow players in the middle of the park get outmuscled and overrun and negates our opportunity for quick counter thrusts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The problem is we do not have the bodies in central midfield to make the style of play that we want to and should play tenable, our slight and slow players in the middle of the park get outmuscled and overrun and negates our opportunity for quick counter thrusts
    We have excellent players that should be able to adapt to multiple roles and systems. But they don't have discipline and they are given far too much freedom on the pitch. That's down to one man. What this season is reinforcing for me is that a decade ago we had even bigger legends playing for this club than we've given credit. These guys were not only superb footballers but they must have been super intelligent and super disciplined to work around Wenger's lunacy. Even those players didn't go on and win in Europe which is a scandal because we easily had the best team on the planet at one stage. It really doesn't matter who Wenger buys if he's not going to get over himself and start applying the basics to the way we approach opponents and matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I know Ramsey was Wales captain. I think there were a couple of others a few years ago who were captains of their national teams.
    Do you think Ramsey would be the best captain since Vieira though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMUG View Post
    Do you think Ramsey would be the best captain since Vieira though?
    Not sure about that but he'd have been better than Vermaelan who couldn't even get in the side last year.

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    Ramsey was such a good captain they took the captaincy off him.

    As for leaders, we don't have any and haven't had any for years, some people tried to convince themselves certain players we had were leaders but they weren't.

    Wenger doesn't really see the importance of leadership on the pitch, come to think of it he doesn't see the importance of a lot of things on the pitch, like tactics, discipline etc etc.

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