Match Reaction vs Stoke (away).

[Power n Glory]

I'm not encouraging it, but with your gift you must be cleaning up.

Envy isn't right either! Repent!

[Dein-machine]

You like the word "stagnating" - you use it a lot. Did we leave Highbury to stagnate, Do we sign new players with a view to stagnate, Do we pay Wenger £8 mill a year to stagnate - ofcourse the answer to this SHOULD be no, but in your own admission "We've been stagnating". The answer is YES which is NOT acceptable, not for any Gooner inc you.
If we stagnate, we will regress because others will improve. You keep on about points totals, compared to last year it is massive regression, not stagnation. The FA cup has turned out to be the worst thing to happen to us for our future success, is getting the monkey off our back worth another 3 years of "stagnation". I personally would have preffered to lose to Wigan in the semi's & finish 5th on the basis that we may now ave a manager who's team shows progress in relation to competing at the top.

[Power n Glory]

I don't think we've taken a step back I think this season is another clear example of stagnation, if you look at the results and the points accumulation compared to the same point two seasons ago its very similar

After fifteen league games in 12/13 we were on 21 points, this time it's 23

We were on ten points in the champions league after five matches, we have ten points now

We haven't gone backwards at all, it's the same shit stick it always was the difference is we know that having more money to spend won't make a fucking bit of difference

You must have the 'gift' too!

[Letters]

You keep on about points totals, compared to last year it is massive regression, not stagnation.

I know. And it's that which I really didn't see coming.
Others are claiming they did but I'm sceptical that anyone really thought we'd be this crap this year.
Meh, whatever.

[Dein-machine]

I don't think we've taken a step back I think this season is another clear example of stagnation, if you look at the results and the points accumulation compared to the same point two seasons ago its very similar

After fifteen league games in 12/13 we were on 21 points, this time it's 23

We were on ten points in the champions league after five matches, we have ten points now

We haven't gone backwards at all, it's the same shit stick it always was the difference is we know that having more money to spend won't make a fucking bit of difference

Stagnation or Regression - doesn't matter, simply not good enough from a guy paid £8 mill with a promise to fans that we are there to compete.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

I don't think we've taken a step back I think this season is another clear example of stagnation, if you look at the results and the points accumulation compared to the same point two seasons ago its very similar

After fifteen league games in 12/13 we were on 21 points, this time it's 23

We were on ten points in the champions league after five matches, we have ten points now

We haven't gone backwards at all, it's the same shit stick it always was the difference is we know that having more money to spend won't make a fucking bit of difference

Why are you choosing 2 seasons ago and not last season? Is it to make your beloved Wenger look better?

Let's compare it to last season shall we.

After 15 games last season: 35 points
After 15 games this season: 23 points

Clear regression.

Wenger out.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Why are you choosing 2 seasons ago and not last season? Is it to make your beloved Wenger look better?

Let's compare it to last season shall we.

After 15 games last season: 35 points
After 15 games this season: 23 points

Clear regression.

Wenger out.

My post was a response to Mr Letters who seems to argue that we are doing inexplicably shit this season, where as I'm pointing out its just another example of Groundhog season.

I find it interesting that you can think this is in anyway a defence of Wenger, I don't use the word stagnation as a defence I use it to say there is no difference between not spending and spending with this man....we aren't getting better.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Stagnation or Regression - doesn't matter, simply not good enough from a guy paid £8 mill with a promise to fans that we are there to compete.

And what part of my message makes you believe I think it is acceptable, I am making the point that this isn't an extraordinary season it's just another turd sandwich....and despite what the media believe the fans don't want Wenger out because of the season we are having, it's because we have seen it one too many times before.

I find it odd that people are jumping on my comments even though I agree with them about the manager, getting a bit squirrely you need to either fuck your girlfriends or take a cold shower

[Dein-machine]

I know. And it's that which I really didn't see coming.
Others are claiming they did but I'm sceptical that anyone really thought we'd be this crap this year.
Meh, whatever.

I think some people saw the FA cup win, the new finances in place & the Sanchez signing as the dawn of a new era. For others the new era needed a manager with a modern approach to the game & someone who would use the new finances properly, for the good of the team. This was the biggest concern for the Wenger doubters because of history not because of the "gift" & here we are. A defensive mess, no defensive midfielder of any substance & relying on Sanchez so heavily that we will burn him out.
We still have the FA cup win, we still have decent finances, we still have Sanchez BUT ---- we still have Wenger & therefore nothing changes.

[Marc Overmars]

You don't even have to look at points, we can all see on the pitch just how far standards have fallen. Even last season when we were winning consistently we were boring as fuck most of the time, most wins were by the odd goal or 2. Effective yes but unrecognisable and rarely convincing.

We are debating over various degrees of shit. It doesn't matter guys, it's still shit.