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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I know. And it's that which I really didn't see coming.
    Others are claiming they did but I'm sceptical that anyone really thought we'd be this crap this year.
    Meh, whatever.
    At least tell me you could see the potential defensive injury crisis after failing to sign another established CB. You can’t be that blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    And what part of my message makes you believe I think it is acceptable, I am making the point that this isn't an extraordinary season it's just another turd sandwich....and despite what the media believe the fans don't want Wenger out because of the season we are having, it's because we have seen it one too many times before.

    I find it odd that people are jumping on my comments even though I agree with them about the manager, getting a bit squirrely you need to either fuck your girlfriends or take a cold shower
    It is an extraordinary season because THIS year we were told we would compete on & off the pitch. Our finances meant we could spend big. We bought Sanchez, excellent - but then made the annual Wenger catastrophe by not buying a DM & better defensive cover.
    It is not acceptable for someone on Wenger wage & with his experience to make these errors every year especially when you cannot blame finances. It is gross negligence.
    You cannot say "its just another turd sandwich" when you gave the chef money for smoked salmon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    lol such visionaries!! The world and his wife saw this coming in 2009. Our team has gradually got worse and the competition has quickly got better. Much better.

    The argument is whether our decline, and the competitions rapid rise, has more to do with Wenger being a fucktard or the difference in player spending between us and the competition.

    I'm a little bit surprised that the fans are seemingly getting angrier and angrier. We've just won the FA Cup and are now seemingly buying a world class player in each summer window. We've reached an inflection point and can now buy a world class player every window instead of selling one. Ozil turning to shit hasn't helped matters though.

    Wenger has never been a tactical genius and he definitely needs to revamp the defence. Per is dog shit now and we've needed a DM for donkeys years. But I genuinely believe our form is more because of our injuries than Wenger's incompetence.
    Hmm...it's debatable whether this team is much worse than previous teams, in fact this is probably our strongest squad for quite some time excusing the lack of quality and depth at the back, that's Wenger's problem, he chose to go into the season with gaping holes in Central Defence.

    Money is no longer an issue, you said it yourself, the arguments are now firmly placed on Wenger's head, he's unable to deliver, PERIOD! He has everything he needs now...no time to hide behind FFP or Chelsea or City, it's all there for him to succeed!

    I'm not at all surprised that Fans are frustrated, after promising so much post FA Cup win we have delivered so little, in fact we have gone backwards even though he has spent a load of money in the wrong areas?! Same old...same old...

    Our poor form is a combination of many things and the fact that we went into the season so badly equipped has pretty much left us in this position.

    Wenger keeps telling us the defence is the problem, too right it is, it's a Defence he created and then dismantled depth way...it's mindblowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    At least tell me you could see the potential defensive injury crisis after failing to sign another established CB. You can’t be that blind.
    Yep, also the fact that Wenger has failed to address DM or Striker position, how many windows does he need to rectify these positions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    At least tell me you could see the potential defensive injury crisis after failing to sign another established CB. You can’t be that blind.
    He didn't want to kill Chambers.

    Although he's doing a pretty good job of killing him anyway. The kid wouldn't even be playing this much if he was still at Southampton because it's obvious he's not ready.

    Thrown under a bus by a careless manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    It is an extraordinary season because THIS year we were told we would compete on & off the pitch. Our finances meant we could spend big. We bought Sanchez, excellent - but then made the annual Wenger catastrophe by not buying a DM & better defensive cover.
    It is not acceptable for someone on Wenger wage & with his experience to make these errors every year especially when you cannot blame finances. It is gross negligence.
    You cannot say "its just another turd sandwich" when you gave the chef money for smoked salmon.

    If the chef is shit, no matter how good the ingredients are and how much he has to spend on them, the result is still going to be a dogs dinner...so no not extraordinary at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    My post was a response to Mr Letters who seems to argue that we are doing inexplicably shit this season, where as I'm pointing out its just another example of Groundhog season.
    Interesting. I'd forgotten how crap we were two years ago at the start of the season. That was the season though when Van Persie had just left - who had dragged us kicking and screaming into the top 4 almost single handedly the previous season. Last summer we'd ended on a high with the FA Cup win and while we lost a bit of depth in defence we signed some decent players and one outstanding one in Sanchez, we didn't lose any real superstars (arguably because we don't have any, but still). I don't think there was any reason to think we'd be quite this crap this year.

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    To sum up where we are with Wenger, this morning a colleague of mine ( who is a Utd fan ) said " After that 1st half, the problem for you lot is that if you had Stoke again next Saturday it could & probably would happen again".
    We can have all the in depth discussions we like on this board but even those that don't give a shit about us know the simple truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    If the chef is shit, no matter how good the ingredients are and how much he has to spend on them, the result is still going to be a dogs dinner...so no not extraordinary at all.
    Yes, but would he still be in a job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I'd agree with the fact that we haven't been progressing, but we haven't been regressing either. We've been stagnating.
    But I hoped, as I think many of us did, that the FA Cup could be a springboard to better things. The new financial deals are in place which gives us a new muscle in the transfer window - the Ozil and Sanchez signings are evidence of that. And yet...

    I'm struggling to believe that anyone saw this coming - by 'this' I mean us being quite this hopeless.
    Personally speaking I envisaged us eventually dropping away as you can't keep being complacent and keep getting away with it year after year, eventually it catches up with you.

    If you don't try and progress the likelyness is eventually you'll be overtaken by teams who are trying to.

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