Match Reaction vs Stoke (away).

[Letters]

How is it bullshit when it was clearly mentioned how tactically lacking he was? The ONLY excuse you and many on here had was that Wenger didnt have money to spend... that excuse has been thrown out of the window this season because we have the money, so whats the problem? The bumbling idiot of a manager tbf.

His lack of tactical nous has never been in dispute.

And this is the same 'bumbling idiot' who at this stage last year had us top of the league.

Last year:
P15 W11 D2 L2 F30 A11

This year:
P15 W6 D5 L4 F24 A18

We might not have been playing scintillating football last year but we were getting results. I don't believe anyone saw us being quite this crap this season. What the hell has happened to Ramsey for one thing? It's the level of regression that I don't think people saw coming as much as they're making out.

[Letters]

The German people voted Hitler in yes. But once he was installed he exterminated all opposition and declared himself ruler for life.

Me and him have so much in common

[Globalgunner]

If you're not a Wenger lover, its a recent conversion. No matter, we need more people to see their way clear to what needs to be done to get this club back to where it ought to be.

[fakeyank]

His lack of tactical nous has never been in dispute.

And this is the same 'bumbling idiot' who at this stage last year had us top of the league.

Last year:
P15 W11 D2 L2 F30 A11

This year:
P15 W6 D5 L4 F24 A18

We might not have been playing scintillating football last year but we were getting results. I don't believe anyone saw us being quite this crap this season. What the hell has happened to Ramsey for one thing? It's the level of regression that I don't think people saw coming as much as they're making out.

How does top of the table help when almost everyone predicted that we would fold in March when we had the run of big games?? If you arrange an arm wrestling match between me and a bunch of 3 years olds for the month of December and January, and then against 35 year olds in February, it is obvious that I will come out unscathed against the 3 year olds. My title credentials are against the big boys and I should be measured for my results when they matter.

As for how we have folded this year, I agree that very few would have predicted that. What was predicted was that Wenger's tactical nous will be found out and he will run out of the money excuse soon. To what extent he is being shown up is a pleasant surprise really...

[fakeyank]

Me and him have so much in common

You both are of the same height

[Letters]

If you're not a Wenger lover, its a recent conversion. No matter, we need more people to see their way clear to what needs to be done to get this club back to where it ought to be.

I don't know whether you're talking to me but the trouble with this board is that there is no room for any grey areas.

A poster either loves Wenger and can see no wrong in anything he does, or they hate Wenger, think he's the biggest c*** in the universe and everything he says and does is massively stupid.

No-one seems to be allowed to have an opinion anywhere in between. If someone opines anything other than the 2nd of of the two above opinions then they're instantly lampooned and said to be in the former camp. It's completely ridiculous.

Yes, I will defend Wenger when twats shout abuse at him or when opposition fans call him a paedo. If I do so then apparently I immediately he should be our manager forever and can do no wrong.

[Letters]

You both are of the same height

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

If you're not a Wenger lover, its a recent conversion. No matter, we need more people to see their way clear to what needs to be done to get this club back to where it ought to be.

That does sound somewhat ominous I don't think it's correct for someone else to be told what their opinion is
Myself personally the manager hasn't sat easy with me for a long time, but I've always floated between he's got to go and the more resigned well he's here to stay no matter what I want so let's hope he changes. Lets not forget that for all the grumbling against Wenger it's only in the last couple of weeks that its really gained any media traction.

I called for Wenger to go at the beginning of the 2011/2012 season but I think it's fair to say I was in the minority, at the end of the season I thought ok we've finished third despite a disastrous sunmer, we have actually beaten some big sides and we could sign some decent players...so I'm not utterly convinced but the only choice I have is to let things play out and hope for the best...and my patience has obviously not been rewarded. And logically there is no way for me to believe that it ever will.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

A poster either loves Wenger and can see no wrong in anything he does, or they hate Wenger, think he's the biggest c*** in the universe and everything he says and does is massively stupid.

No-one seems to be allowed to have an opinion anywhere in between. If someone opines anything other than the 2nd of of the two above opinions then they're instantly lampooned

This is where I do agree with you

I do wonder what the cause of this, I put it down to entrenchment....I'm not lying when i now say I worry about him staying here till 2017, I worry what it will do to the club and the fan base and in respect of losing players like Sanchez to clubs with frankly more ambition. And yet despite all this I'm able to countenance another persons point of view.

[Letters]

How does top of the table help when almost everyone predicted that we would fold in March when we had the run of big games?? If you arrange an arm wrestling match between me and a bunch of 3 years olds for the month of December and January, and then against 35 year olds in February, it is obvious that I will come out unscathed against the 3 year olds. My title credentials are against the big boys and I should be measured for my results when they matter.

Behave.

Our fixtures thus far have been marginally harder this year but not so much as to explain our ridiculously poor form. The 'difficult' fixtures in the first 15 games last year:
Spurs Home (W)
Liverpool Home (W)
Man Yoo away (L, as always )
Everton Home (D)

This year:

Everton Away (D)
Man City Home (D)
Spurs Home (D)
Chelsea Away (L, as always )
ManYoo Home (L )

So they're worse. And this year we're not even beating the 3 year olds that often. You can't just say "oh yeah, that's because Wenger's crap" when this is the same Wenger whose side last year were, at this stage at least, doing better than anyone. If he's that crap why weren't we crap then too?