Match Reaction - Arsenal 1-2 Watford

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Back to being petulant...really?

You see the contradiction in what you posted though, right?

It's only contradictory if i'm trying to make both points simultaneously, if i am saying to you Now that nothing fans do will make a difference and that sponsors getting cold feet which would be caused by fan reaction would make a difference than it's clearly contradictory. But it's not what i am saying.

Again for a fourth time.....I've admitted i was wrong to say that....you've clearly read that part of my last message otherwise you wouldn't have extracted an admission of petulence from it.

How far fans who are pretty meek by comparison to that of other clubs are willing to go to bring that situation about there is some doubt over, and i do stick with that and i hope i'm wrong.

Anything else about fan behaviour i'm not going to discuss with you because we've made clear that you aren't interested in it, of course i will continue to mention it on here because despite your protestation that it shouldn't be discussed (the same way you got upset when i started criticising religion and i will continue to do so on non-arsenal related topics).

And genuinely this is where if i do get irritated the only reason for it, i'll tell people they are wrong if i think they are wrong so i have no possible reason to object to it myself however what i do find grating (and i'm sorry to say you are the only one on here who does it) is you somehow get the hump that i'm discussing something in the first place. It's patently absurd.

There have been times where not even directly replying to you i've followed up on something you've said, you've got uppity about it and even when it's been clearly explained that i wasn't arguing with you....instead of just accepting that you question my reasoning for posting in the first place.

[Power n Glory]

Boohoo. Grow a pair.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Boohoo. Grow a pair.

Pot calling the kettle black rather given how you react to me

Don't get me wrong, whether you think I should discuss something or not has no bearing on what I will talk about ....its just like I say grating, as if who the fuck does this guy think he is.

Talking on the politics thread the other day you accused NQ of being off his rocker and I couldn't be bothered at the time to start an argument but I thought look whose talking.

If you have any mates and you tell them what they should be saying or not they'd likely tell you to fuck off, so I'm guessing you don't act that way off the internet.

[Power n Glory]

Jesus Christ, Herb! Are you really taking this to heart? Get over it.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Jesus Christ, Herb! Are you really taking this to heart? Get over it.

No I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy given how precious you get if you think I'm getting at you

It just seems bizarre to me that you get into such a flap even over something inoccuous I say and then give it the old lighten up man routine.

I couldn't take it to heart because you are intangible to me, I don't know who you are and am not that interested anymore than you are I would imagine in me.

This place is a diversion nothing more as I enjoy debate. I just enjoy it more when I don't have to skip around someone trying to constantly narrow the parameters of said debate.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

But I am too verbose for my own good, I feel I could have avoided this all with a simple if you don't like it go fuck your self

[Power n Glory]

You found them. Good man!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

i don't think it really matters what i want, when i foolishly believed that even with the team we put out against watford our team would actually bother to go and get the three points rather than just assume they are already in the bag yes i thought the fa cup would be an unnecessary distraction.

But frankly looks like the only way to save our season......i have a nasty feeling we will win it and that will be a wenger reprieve.

That is noble of you. Though that probably sounds sarcastic I mean it. I too, thought the team put out against Watford should have been more than enough to beat Watford but of course no team selected that doesn't apply themselves correctly is going to just turn up and win. I think the continual insistence that Wenger's team selection was horrible and the focus on it almost lets Wenger off the hook and deflects from the fact he is responsible for several things working...or not working as it were, simultaneously.

I also said we would challenge for most of the season at the start of it and that hitherto is debatable.

[Power n Glory]

That is noble of you. Though that probably sounds sarcastic I mean it. I too, thought the team put out against Watford should have been more than enough to beat Watford but of course no team selected that doesn't apply themselves correctly is going to just turn up and win. I think the continual insistence that Wenger's team selection was horrible and the focus on it almost lets Wenger off the hook and deflects from the fact he is responsible for several things working...or not working as it were, simultaneously.

I also said we would challenge for most of the season at the start of it and that hitherto is debatable.

You have a point. It's not as if we haven't seen Wenger play a similar line up. Last season and the season before that we'd see something similar. But I think more people are starting to see how unbalanced we are in midfield and up front when Giroud plays. But saying that, it wasn't so bad that we should have lost that game. The players need to show up and Wenger has to do more to prepare them.