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Thread: Match Reaction Chelsea Away PL 2016-17 season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Well, obviously that's bullshit. The Invincibles were entirely Wenger's team, none of the legendary back five played in that team, I don't think there was a single pre-Wenger player who was a significant part of that team.
    Many players from that early era have credited Wenger with extending their careers. His fitness methods were revolutionary - remember he came in at a time when there were still 'drinking schools' at clubs.
    His knowledge of the worldwide game was revolutionary at the time too, remember how we used to get panned for having so many foreign players. Not any more, every club does it.

    You'd have to go out of your way to deny him credit for all of that.
    The problem is simply that other teams caught up and overtook him. And the billionaires weighing in just at the time when the stadium caused us the most financial pressure didn't help.

    The last few years the finances have been there to properly compete. The FA Cups were a good start and gave us all hope that we could push on and compete for the biggest prizes again, the last couple of years have shown that Wenger isn't able to do that now. Shame. Wenger has never achieved success entirely on his own - no-one does. People like Dein off the pitch and Adams/Vieira on it clearly helped. But let's not rewrite history or over-state how terrible he is.
    Crazy. I actually go out of my way to explain I don't deny his influence on the the British game nor his extensive knowledge of the global game and you say - obviously that's bullshit, you'd have to go out of your way to deny him credit for all of that.

    Crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Ha might give it a go, but not sure i can cope with another one after listening to the one you linked yesterday, the Arsecast extra and Le Grove's new podcast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Ha might give it a go, but not sure i can cope with another one after listening to the one you linked yesterday, the Arsecast extra and Le Grove's new podcast
    Tim Stillman from Arsecast often speaks on this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Tim Stillman from Arsecast often speaks on this show.
    The whiny American kids voice does grate a bit, but actually thought it was very interesting and analytical

    The only thing that slightly disappointed me is that Tim Stillman expresses disappointment that the fans singing "we want Wenger out". I'm sorry pal, no one wants to have to be doing this but if it's what it takes.....

    Though again that's his opinion, I thought the match analysis was pretty good

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    Elliot is very good and his legal background is no surprise once you've heard him present an argument.

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    Elliott is good. They all are. Prefer it over Gooner Ramble but I don't mind when Clive steps in for Tim.

    I'm glad they steer clear away from the Wenger in and out debate when they can. They focus more on the game and it's what keeps me listening. The Wenger debate gets boring and partly why I don't read arseblog.com or Le Grove as much.

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    I don't think the arseblog obsesses over the manager that much.

    Yes it did have Phillipe Auclare on, on Friday to discuss the managerial structure at the club and the unlikelihood of Wenger going in the summer but mainly it focuses on the game and the players (albeit not in the same analytical way as the Arsenal vision one). I generally feel Andrew doesn't take a direct stance on the manager he's just sick of the same old.

    Le Grove of course is obsessed with Wenger

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    Haven't read all of this but definitely agree with the headlines

    http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2017/02/07...football-club/

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