Match Reaction Chelsea Away PL 2016-17 season

[LDG]

I remember when Wenger said "this club had not so many CL league games before I came and have so many after me"

Yeah, 8 a season.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yeah, 8 a season.

that's not fair

It's 10 if we have to go through the third round qualifying process

[Power n Glory]

If the fans were so shy and retiring would the board really need to recruit John Cross to do the kind of hatchet jobs he did in the Mirror

Whether more should be vociferous is really up to them, I think there is a sizeable minority who go to the Emirates prepared to shout them down either way and sometimes they might be inclined to think...is it worth the hassle.

I don't think anyone considers that we are succeeding even the most hardened Wenger supporters, they are either convinced he can turn it around or are fatalistic about the impact of the big money clubs (and yes they are clearly wrong...but they are entitled to that view).

But you consider yourself a supporter of Arsenal, what exactly have you done to bring about the end of Wenger's tenure?....apart from whinging on here.

I generally also think if the worst happens and he does sign an extension the attendance will go down, and i think there's only so much you can supplement that with tourists.

I thought you agreed with Tim Stillman on his views of the Emirates crowd not being the same as what we see on social media? Fans that mostly go for a weekend routine and don't really talk about the match after? Something along those lines.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I thought you agreed with Tim Stillman on his views of the Emirates crowd not being the same as what we see on social media? Fans that mostly go for a weekend routine and don't really talk about the match after? Something along those lines.

1) Suggested it as a possible hypothesis the same way Stillman did

2) Even people who fall under that category might not be particularly happy with what's going on, they just don't see why it's up to them to do something.

3) There are enough fans who don't fall under that category both on social media and those who simply go to games who have made enough noise for the board to pay attention.

Actually i would say that it's quite consistent with what i've said that fans can protest as much as they want, but no-one should ever feel compelled to.

[Power n Glory]

1) Suggested it as a possible hypothesis the same way Stillman did

2) Even people who fall under that category might not be particularly happy with what's going on, they just don't see why it's up to them to do something.

3) There are enough fans who don't fall under that category both on social media and those who simply go to games who have made enough noise for the board to pay attention.

Actually i would say that it's quite consistent with what i've said that fans can protest as much as they want, but no-one should ever feel compelled to.

I should be able to find the post.

I know you like Tim Stillman and i sometimes read his column, he is of the opinion that the majority of fans that go to the Emirates week in week out aren't the same voices on the fan forums, on twitter etc during the week (and i tend to think he's got a point, i don't think many of us on here are season ticket holders).

Now this is not him or me saying the complaints are coming from people who aren't proper fans, it's just most of the Emirates crowd (and i say specifically the Emirates crowd) tend to be people who go to the Arsenal as a weekend routine, have their pie, buy their match day program and win, lose or draw go back and meet their mates or take the missus out for a meal without any further thought on the match.

If you remove the amount of Tourist fans from the equation (token amount) and that leaves a lot of fans, now doubtless Stillman is basing his opinion on anecdotal evidence of the type of fans he sits around when he goes to the Emirates himself but i wouldn't be surprised if what he says does have a ring of truth to it.

And i do think this sums up this reticence to protest at the ground, oh and just so there is no confusion i wasn't in anyway stating you did think people should be compelled to kick up a fuss.....i just think short of putting a rod up people's backsides (which is i think counter productive) I'm just not sure how you can create the atmosphere you (and to be fair I as well) am looking for at the Emirates.

The criticism from outsiders has a ring of truth to but I think it's what will spark the next big reaction if they keep having a pop at fans.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I should be able to find the post.





The criticism from outsiders has a ring of truth to but I think it's what will spark the next big reaction if they keep having a pop at fans.

I don't disagree with that assessment, i think certainly so if Wenger comes out with what he did last April about the home fans being responsible for poor results

People who pay a lot of money to go and watch the game won't take kindly to that.

[Power n Glory]

I don't disagree with that assessment, i think certainly so if Wenger comes out with what he did last April about the home fans being responsible for poor results

People who pay a lot of money to go and watch the game won't take kindly to that.

Tomorrow is a must win game for all the wrong reasons. The reaction on all ends will be interesting.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Tomorrow is a must win game for all the wrong reasons. The reaction on all ends will be interesting.

Well we have three very tough fixtures for Wenger at completley the wrong time for him

Wednesday in Munich, Then in 2 and a half weeks away at Anfield (with only Sutton in between) and then the return leg at home to Bayern.

Fails to win all three of those games and i think the ledge falls away from under his feet, yes only he decides his future but he knows deep down he has to justify even to himself a contract extension (thus why he waited until after the fa cup in 2014 to sign an extension, i actually believe he wouldn't have signed an extension if we hadn't recovered against Hull).