Who Will it be?

[Özim]

'No matter what happens I will manage next season, whether it’s here or somewhere else' - Next Barca manager?

He also said he will decide his future in March or April.

Barca have their eye on the guys for Sevilla, they'd be fools to take Wenger, I don't think they are fools though they have ambition to win everything and Wenger certainly won't manage that, though with the players they have it wouldn't be too hard to pick up a trophy.

If he's at another club I'll enjoy watching them coming 2nd best and having him say it's a great success, it'll make a change from it being us.

[Globalgunner]

His reputation around Europe is basically ruined. Only he cant see it. The French manager position could be available, but I doubt he can hack it there either. No top club in Europe wants him, thats for sure. China is probably the only place for him to go. They will pay him what he wants and he can fiddle with his Bibendum suit on the sidelines to his hearts content. He is deluded, long has been. Sometime ago I posited that many Arsenal fans were suffering from "Battered Wife syndrome" not wanting him to go . It seems now that Wenger has "Battering husband syndrome". "I cant let my wife divorce me M`lud. Cos I will have no one to beat up when I wake each morning"

[Letters]

A lot of people defended him saying he had no money, he was doing a great job it was all the boards fault, only a handful put the balme on his doorstep, he's getting it in the ear now because he has no excuses to hide behind anymore, about time too really he is in charge with the football aside after all (and a lot more if you believe what you hear) and he just hasn't been doing a good enough job for many a year.

Yes he gets 4th place, but really that's just a springboard or should be, no other club would just settle for getting 4th every year, we're now just a club that accepts being 2nd best, it runs right through the club and that I'm afraid is very much Wenger's fault, he's instilled that in the players and it's very evident on the pitch, no desire, ho hunger, no appreciation for the fans.

It's going to take some time to get rid of that, because it's been going on so long, once upon a time we dreamed about challenging the very best clubs after our move to the new stadium, Wednesday was yet another example of the culmination of his work, we're miles away from the top clubs and unlike them the losers mentality is rife and goes right through the club from top to bottom.

People harp on about doing things the right way and yet we have an owner who's only interest is money, would rather have the guy at Chelsea who clearly cares about the club and winning, in my eyes that's certainly more right than what we're doing.

I think we're a shadow of the club we once were.

Why do you keep saying 4th? We haven't finished 4th for 3 years.
The situation has changed so my opinion has changed, as has other people's, but he was getting a lot of stick back in the day from some people. In the era where we were struggling to compete financially I think he did quite well to keep us "up there". Now the money is there so there is no reason we can't compete, he's been signing the sorts of players who should enable us to step up like Ozil and Sanchez and while the FA Cups were nice we really should be competing for the biggest prizes now. We're not, and that's why he has to go. I don't think Wenger is satisfied with us being 2nd best but I don't think he's able to do better. I blame the board too though because they ARE happy for us to be 2nd best as it keeps the money rolling in.
I'm not sure it will take that long to improve things IF we get the right manager in - note how Chelsea did so poorly last year when they had a manager the players couldn't work with, this year they'll probably be champions.

As for Wenger not taking the blame for things, that sounds like a lot of the managers who you look at admiringly. You do this sort of thing a lot, you hold people to different standards depending on whether you like them or not.

I hope Wenger goes at the end of this season, if he does he'll go with some dignity and most people will respect what he's done for the club.

[Özim]

Why do you keep saying 4th? We haven't finished 4th for 3 years.
The situation has changed so my opinion has changed, as has other people's, but he was getting a lot of stick back in the day from some people. In the era where we were struggling to compete financially I think he did quite well to keep us "up there". Now the money is there so there is no reason we can't compete, he's been signing the sorts of players who should enable us to step up like Ozil and Sanchez and while the FA Cups were nice we really should be competing for the biggest prizes now. We're not, and that's why he has to go. I don't think Wenger is satisfied with us being 2nd best but I don't think he's able to do better. I blame the board too though because they ARE happy for us to be 2nd best as it keeps the money rolling in.
I'm not sure it will take that long to improve things IF we get the right manager in - note how Chelsea did so poorly last year when they had a manager the players couldn't work with, this year they'll probably be champions.

As for Wenger not taking the blame for things, that sounds like a lot of the managers who you look at admiringly. You do this sort of thing a lot, you hold people to different standards depending on whether you like them or not.

I hope Wenger goes at the end of this season, if he does he'll go with some dignity and most people will respect what he's done for the club.

2nd, 3rd, 4th it's all the same when you don't compete for the trophies! Personally I think he hasn't done a good job for a long time, I always maintained his flaws, persistence with failing methods and refusal to do the right things hindered us and I stand by that. As for signing players, he's signed 2 players (3 if you include Cech though he was cheap and not one to build a team with IMO) hardly groundbreaking, he should have done a lot more of that and had the chance, last summer being a prime example, he signed some nobodies for a lot of money who just haven't worked out (he should have gone for targets earlier in the summer not waiting around until late on when prices would be higher and choice scarce, poor management IMO).

I totally disagree, he is satisfied with being 2nd best, that's part of the reason we are where we are, he won't do the necessary and go out on a limb to try and make us winners, he's all too happy qualifying for the CL, that's the holy grail for him, that and making a profit, you saying he isn't satisfied doesn't make it so, evidence point to the fact he is, he wouldn't have hailed qualifying for the CL as such a great achievement otherwise, he epitomises the losers mentality IMO and that runs throughout the club which is sad and will take time to change for any new manager.

Like it or not he's won 2 FA Cups in what 12 years, that's a pretty poor return, time after time he's failed but what's worse is his attitude, it asbolutely shocking that a manager could behave like this towards the fans and be so much in denial and frankly it's unacceptable any other club would have sacked him years ago, he's been very lucky to be at a club like Arsenal where the owner only cares about profit. I'm not absolving the owners of blame btw, they are very much to blame, but this mess also started before they arrived IMO, the day he decided to change our style of play to this tippy tappy rubbish in fact.

Clubs have ups and downs, new managers new time to bed in, the thing is other clubs don't accept things going wrong they do something about it when it doesn't work, Chelsea being a perfect example, they got rid of a manager who had had a huge amount of success because it wasn't working out and look where they are now.

Most managers are far more honest about things than Wenger, that's what makes him so much more irritating than the rest, other managers will take the blame, blame players, say when performances are unacceptable, they don't wrap all the players in cotton wool or indeed blame the fans (pretty low if you ask me).

I lost respect for Wenger a long time ago, not because of what he was doing but because of his criticism of fans and refusal to ever accept any blame or balme his players, they were always the good ones who were hard done by, pretty pathetic really, I think quite a few fans have lost respect for him too.

At the end of the day he's had 20 years with us and 12 odd years has been IMO a failure, so his record isn't all that, plenty of better managers out there.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger has been instrumental in changing Arsenal from a football club to a financial institution. Whatever else, he's guilty of that. Every time it was suggested we take a risk and buy that one player who made a difference Leeds Utd were rolled out as a certainty of what would befall us if we spent the money. Only when the balance sheet was tipped wildly in favour of the shareholders and there was a ton of cash in the bank did we spend some of it. Even then, it seems the board was happy to spend more but Wenger carried on his penny pinching ways but now he was doing far more damage as the money gave him the means to panic buy when his penny pinching didn't work out. That's why we have ended up with 90 million worth of players who are second rate, bar possibly Peres who (of course, it's Wenger) he won't play. As Littlejohn would say - I'm a massive cuntyou couldn't make it up.

Wenger took this club to the top of the mountain... and then he destroyed it. That's his legacy. We're a hedge fund for Stan Kroenke now. That's our primary purpose and Wenger and the rest have treated themselves bountifully during the process of transformation. It's a scandal really, but the media will all fawn and the fans will all don rose tinted specs when he eventually leaves.

Yes Wenger, no doubt about it, thanks for the privilege of watching some of the best football I have ever seen and am ever likely to see. I don't deny you that. But shame on you for the other things. Those shouldn't be forgotten either, even though they will be.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why do you keep saying 4th? We haven't finished 4th for 3 years.
The situation has changed so my opinion has changed, as has other people's, but he was getting a lot of stick back in the day from some people. In the era where we were struggling to compete financially I think he did quite well to keep us "up there". Now the money is there so there is no reason we can't compete, he's been signing the sorts of players who should enable us to step up like Ozil and Sanchez and while the FA Cups were nice we really should be competing for the biggest prizes now. We're not, and that's why he has to go. I don't think Wenger is satisfied with us being 2nd best but I don't think he's able to do better. I blame the board too though because they ARE happy for us to be 2nd best as it keeps the money rolling in.
I'm not sure it will take that long to improve things IF we get the right manager in - note how Chelsea did so poorly last year when they had a manager the players couldn't work with, this year they'll probably be champions.

As for Wenger not taking the blame for things, that sounds like a lot of the managers who you look at admiringly. You do this sort of thing a lot, you hold people to different standards depending on whether you like them or not.

I hope Wenger goes at the end of this season, if he does he'll go with some dignity and most people will respect what he's done for the club.

Are you sure they aren't looking at him with unrestrained jealousy? A multi-millionaire who doesn't have to achieve anything except the barest minimum? A guy who sets his own targets and is accountable to nobody regardless of the outcome? I can see why a lot of managers would look on and admire the sheer nerve of it. Nice of you can get away with it, especially for so long.

[Munchies]

Wenger on #afc fans' anger: "It's not like Arsenal had won the European Cup 5 times before I arrived. They've never won it."

what a cunt!

[Power n Glory]

Wenger on #afc fans' anger: "It's not like Arsenal had won the European Cup 5 times before I arrived. They've never won it."

what a cunt!

Agreed. Sympathy goes out the window when he starts talking this way.

[Munchies]

Chileans will protest on 1st March in a bid to get Sanchez out of Arsenal.

[Munchies]

Agreed. Sympathy goes out the window when he starts talking this way.

he makes these statements on purpose to deflect from the actual criticism. Never accepts anything.

Fuck the send off. He can fucking do one. Massive cunt!