Who Will it be?

[AFC Leveller]

The money argument doesn't wash anymore because we have the resources but have spent them on mediocre players.

This season we spent 70 mill on a defender and DCM and we are back to where we were last season (only worse). Our issues over the last couple of years have been on the pitch as much as off it.

If you look at some our recent expensive buys and compare them to those at Chelsea for example, you'll see that we have fucked up big time. Hazard was 32m, Ozil was 42, which one would you rather have? Kante was 35, Xhaka was 35, which one would you rather have? mustafi was 35, David Luiz was 32, which one has had a better season and is the better defender? The argument that we can't compete with those clubs is old and doesn't stand anymore. We fail these days for various reasons but not spending is not one of them.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Erm I'd still rather have Mustafi than David Luiz

Hazard was bought from Lille, Ozil from Real Madrid it makes a difference in terms of how much you pay

Kante and Xhaka two different types of player

Let's be fair how many players have we spent vasts amounts of money on, Mustafi and Xhaka came to us in a summer where everyone was playing top whack for players not much better than average....part of the market we are in.

Let's not pretend Alonso and Luiz were inspired signings and not made out of desperation by Conte, he's just done well to get the best out of them

[mastermind84]

He seems pretty unrepentant, oblivious to the idea it might be himself at fault. It sounds like he's feeling under-appreciated for the consistent lack of success he's brought over the last decade. Of course he'll view all the big numbers on the balance sheet as the ultimate success. He's not in the same place as the fans on any level. So it wouldn't surprise me if he stayed and thought he was doing us a huge favour, despite our ingratitude.

And tbh, I would be fine with his attitude if the board didnt agree wit him.

That "I will manage here or somewhere else" line lets me know that he is staying because the board do not actually want to work. Its not the worst time, but this club isnt going to be great.

[AFC Leveller]

Erm I'd still rather have Mustafi than David Luiz

Hazard was bought from Lille, Ozil from Real Madrid it makes a difference in terms of how much you pay

Kante and Xhaka two different types of player

Let's be fair how many players have we spent vasts amounts of money on, Mustafi and Xhaka came to us in a summer where everyone was playing top whack for players not much better than average....part of the market we are in.

Let's not pretend Alonso and Luiz were inspired signings and not made out of desperation by Conte, he's just done well to get the best out of them

My point is we have the money and our recent big buys haven't taken us to the next level. We had the chance to sign cesc for much less than what Chelsea paid for him but chose to stick with average players like Ramsay. Cesc is a much better playmaker and midfielder than Ozil and his numbers back it up, he used to turn up in the big games and was so passionate.

We finished 3rd and 4th without these guys and are finishing there with them so they have failed to take us to the next level.

[Ernesto]

The almost murderously ravenous approach by the media to hound out Wenger is unsettling. No matter where we stand on the Wenger issue as fans, I despise their approach.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The almost murderously ravenous approach by the media to hound out Wenger is unsettling. No matter where we stand on the Wenger issue as fans, I despise their approach.

Fuck it, I hate to say it but he needs to be hounded out

It's abundantly clear that he won't leave any other way. I don't like the sports media in this country but if it does us a solid I say let them.

[Ernesto]

Fuck it, I hate to say it but he needs to be hounded out

It's abundantly clear that he won't leave any other way. I don't like the sports media in this country but if it does us a solid I say let them.

It's the double standards that really riles me. Wenger and Trump are painted as public enemy number 1. And 2. :/

[Niall_Quinn]

It's the double standards that really riles me. Wenger and Trump are painted as public enemy number 1. And 2. :/

Would be quite funny if Wenger started referring to them as fake news. That's a trend that could save the planet.

They already had their main fake news piece blown up, the dispute in the dressing room after the game with Alexis storming off and travelling separately. All false. For a long time now 99% of "journalists" are click-baiters rather than reporters of facts. Of course they'll be all over this, not because it is personal, not because they give a shit about double standards, not because they have any concerns about the truth - but for the clicks. Not just the sports journos, all of them.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It's the double standards that really riles me. Wenger and Trump are painted as public enemy number 1. And 2. :/

Wenger is not being treated as public enemy, he's being treated like someone who has been protected from criticism for too long. I do think Wenger is able to accept reality of the situation he's facing, he's just playing for time. He's still holding out hope to get enough positive results on the board to sign up to a new deal without a fan revolt.

Trump is someone who is mentally unable to accept any criticism and descends into a lunatic rambling session where he derides Fake News and comes out with things that are demonstrably false. I think it's fair he especially should come under media scrutiny because he's essentially the most powerful man on the planet and even putting aside everything else he seems psychologically unstable.
Trump doesn't drink, but would anyone have been surprised if it had been revealed he was intoxicated during that press conference.... I don't think so because it was the kind of babbling that you'd associate with someone who was drunk.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Watched the Arsenal fan tv vs Gary Neville thing

Half an hour I'll never get back

Give credit to DT who I've often derided as an inarticulate thug, he made by far made the most pertinent and relevant remarks unlike Moh who was trying to cross examine Neville without actually saying anything of relevance.

Neville is a class A bell end