Who Will it be?

[GP]

I don't like Neville much but he came across okay.

I think Claude was asleep throughout.

Troopz was embarrassing as usual.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I don't like Neville much but he came across okay.

I think Claude was asleep throughout.

Troopz was embarrassing as usual.

I actually thought Troopz made a good point, that people are dismissing what he says because of how he says it, yeah we mock him for the constant use of blood and fam but is his point any less informed than the overpaid and banal tv pundits.

Neville hiding behind this tired bollocks of stability, we don't need stability we need progression. If he was talking in 2011, ok fair enough but not now it's just a lazy uninformed load of shite that no one brought him up on.

Fair enough he shouldn't apologise for saying what he thinks, I would have just made the point that saying what he thinks exemplifies the fact that he's an idiot, and a very well paid one at that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger is not being treated as public enemy, he's being treated like someone who has been protected from criticism for too long. I do think Wenger is able to accept reality of the situation he's facing, he's just playing for time. He's still holding out hope to get enough positive results on the board to sign up to a new deal without a fan revolt.

Trump is someone who is mentally unable to accept any criticism and descends into a lunatic rambling session where he derides Fake News and comes out with things that are demonstrably false. I think it's fair he especially should come under media scrutiny because he's essentially the most powerful man on the planet and even putting aside everything else he seems psychologically unstable.
Trump doesn't drink, but would anyone have been surprised if it had been revealed he was intoxicated during that press conference.... I don't think so because it was the kind of babbling that you'd associate with someone who was drunk.

Almost certainly you have it reversed. It sounds painfully obvious Wenger can't admit any of his failings to himself. Only a fool would come out and criticise the fans, or somebody who has convinced himself beyond the ability to reason that he's correct and the exasperating fools around him just can't see it. The comment about European success before he arrived was very revealing, I thought. It shows that in his mind Arsenal is Wenger and Wenger is Arsenal and that there was nothing of significance before.

As for Trump, watch his interviews before he became a public figure. This is a well rehearsed and devastatingly effective act. He's destroying CNN as an example to the rest of them and apart from the more extreme outlets for fake news, such as the WSJ, the rest are slowly starting to pay heed. They may be kicking, they may be screaming, but if Trump's team get their way they may just end up as journalists again. We'll see but right now it looks like there can be only one winner. Don't think Uncle Tom in his command post down the road will be able to save them either.

[Niall_Quinn]

BTW, I'll make a prediction. I bet Trump and CNN are getting on like a house on fire (what a stupid saying, but you know what I mean) by this time next year.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

So what you're saying is a man who lies so pathologically that he doesn't understand the difference between truth and lies is well positioned to instruct journalists on how to report factually?.

I've seen many things Trump has said before he became president, indicative of a man who has been rich enough to orchaestrate his own unique brand of reality which is whatever he wants it to be at any given time.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

BTW, I'll make a prediction. I bet Trump and CNN are getting on like a house on fire (what a stupid saying, but you know what I mean) by this time next year.

If CNN become a mentally gymnastic propaganda arm for his administration I'm sure that will be true.

[Niall_Quinn]

I actually thought Troopz made a good point, that people are dismissing what he says because of how he says it, yeah we mock him for the constant use of blood and fam but is his point any less informed than the overpaid and banal tv pundits.

Neville hiding behind this tired bollocks of stability, we don't need stability we need progression. If he was talking in 2011, ok fair enough but not now it's just a lazy uninformed load of shite that no one brought him up on.

Fair enough he shouldn't apologise for saying what he thinks, I would have just made the point that saying what he thinks exemplifies the fact that he's an idiot, and a very well paid one at that.

I thought all of them did pretty well really, although with Moh it was more of a performance as usual. DT was on his best manners but made a coherent case. Claude got the question in about Rooney's dive which was the best moment of the interview and Troopz reminded the media that fans wot aren't posh are still entitled to follow the game. Neville's fake offence to the idea he manufactured himself that he wasn't a fan was far more hammed up than Troopz down to earth effort. Moh was Moh. Robbie could easily do a job on Sky too. People have to admit, he's brought his channel a long way in a relatively short time.

[Niall_Quinn]

If CNN stop being a mentally gymnastic propaganda arm for the establishment I'm sure that will be true.

[Niall_Quinn]

So what you're saying is a man who lies so pathologically that he doesn't understand the difference between truth and lies is well positioned to instruct journalists on how to report factually?.

I've seen many things Trump has said before he became president, indicative of a man who has been rich enough to orchaestrate his own unique brand of reality which is whatever he wants it to be at any given time.

Oh good grief. You're accusing a politician of manufacturing reality? Behave. Of course he is, that's his job. What do you expect him to do?

So are you suggesting the media is reporting the truth?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The establishment that's so establishment it's not actually in power

What Australians have to say is seldom of any interest to me but Bill Turnbull hit the nail on the head when he says a politician complaining about the media is like a sailor complaining about the sea.