Wishing we fall away just to stick it to those who want a change.
Unfortunately that's going to be the next problem we encounter with the morons amongst our fanbase. Most of us know we're not going to magically win title after title, there will be a transitional period and these guys will probably use any bump in the road to pine after Wenger and tell everyone they told you so. Therefore deepening the divide.
Arsene FC!Wenger will be remembered for the good but this bad spell will have a lasting effect and will be part of his legacy. From the fans being split down to the way this club is run by the owners.
The self sustaining stadium model and idea that the main bulk of revenue should come from the fans and not from outside investors is something he's championed and backed from day one. Anyone with a problem with Stan and co have to really look at Wenger's words when looking into this. He's backed price hikes, has said £62 for a ticket is 'fair' and has compared the Emirates experience to going the the theater. He seems nonchalant on the issue with no real concern for fans who are priced out and just bluntly says you can either afford to or can't.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...l-8447839.html
http://metro.co.uk/2013/01/11/arsene...-fair-3348188/
It's the sour and sweet. He's brought us the trophies, great football to watch and a great stadium but it's ushered in high ticket, an owner that embraces his hands off mantra when it comes to financing the club and attitude that the fans are just customers. Worse than customers in fact. Viewers! Wenger represents what's great about the club but also what we all hate. It's too far gone to try and wash away the shitty parts and when he's gone we'll have a constant reminder if it goes from bad to worse. He's had the ear of Stan for a long time now and they all respect his opinion but I haven't once heard about him using his influence to sway Stan to change course on the above issues.
The telegraph running a story about Wenger wanting a 4 year contract. They have direct quotes from him saying he is 4 years younger than when Fergie retired and he doesn't feel tired at all.
Would be a nightmare if he signed a new deal, just horrible.
On SSN now saying that Wumger wants to stay at Arsenal! FFS! Please just fuck off! He is fucking mad!Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Seems like he doesn't have a life outside of football and that's the issue. We can only hope he gets an offer from somewhere to tempt him away.
This is what I said. Fans need to keep the pressure on. Instead they are begging. People need to stand up now and shout GTFO!
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This is so Wenger though. Fans are wondering if he'll do the club a terrible disservice by staying on for 2 more years, or will he do the honourable thing and go.
In reality - different planet. It's not the 2 years that bothers him, he wants 4! Total delusion.
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With Wenger leaving, we're bound to get a "yes man" in. The board will try and replace like for like. That's not to say better the devil you know than the devil you don't. I can only hope that the replacement we get is scared of failure and scared of getting the sack after a damaging defeat, thus spurring him on to get better results.
As for the Gary Neville stuff, I'm surprised no-one questioned him on the "idiot" stuff. Granted, if a fan came on the pitch and hit a player, yes, he's an idiot. But for carrying a sign, without any foul language on it? The hypocritical thing is, if anyone watched the match listening to the commentary, Neville spent the whole game moaning about Arsenal's failure to compete in the big games in recent years, conveniently forgetting the common denominator behind that- Wenger. It's, as a lot of people have said on the this thread already, all about the status quo. Wenger is part of the footballing establishment. Neville spouting regurgitated rubbish but making it seem fresh is part of the norm. The managerial merry go round has the same old 5 or 6 faces. God forbids someone upsets that ecosystem. Leicester won the league? Let's sweep that under the carpet. Chelsea are winning it now. Let's all hail them and forget about how and why they are where they are.
As for Arsenal Fan TV, Robbie has done a great job but I'm kinda losing the love for it. It's the same old angry faces. When some of the videos were first uploaded on here, there'd be interviews with some of the regular, run-of-the-mill gooners who would encapsulate our feelings in a video less than a minute long. I'm getting to the point where I can't watch it any more.
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The Max Allegri stories seem to be doing the rounds and he even joked about learning English. I can't imagine another coach lacking the same sort of drive and ambition I've seen from Wenger. Also, it's a tactical thing. Conte hasn't blown a lot of money on his team this year. He had to work with what he was given and find a new system. I think if we find someone that isn't burnt out and has a tactical brain, we'll be fine. I think the Board are smart enough to know that we need success quickly after Wenger is gone.With Wenger leaving, we're bound to get a "yes man" in. The board will try and replace like for like. That's not to say better the devil you know than the devil you don't. I can only hope that the replacement we get is scared of failure and scared of getting the sack after a damaging defeat, thus spurring him on to get better results.
I think it's incredibly hard to predict what life would be like at Arsenal post Wenger, this man controls every footballing aspect of the club, so we'd likely see a very different set up. Wenger isn't a yes man to the board, the board are yes men to him because they don't have his understanding of football so they defer completely to him.
As much as I think Wenger is ultimately motivated by hubris and fear of retirement, I don't think it's for fans to tell him whether he should retire or not....we have the right only to tell him that we don't want him at the club and as this vocal message is the majority it would say nothing good about him if he chose not to heed it.
How long he stays in management is up to him, I honestly think if there was a club prepared to take him. I would wish him well but the important thing is he has no one to push him or set him goals above and beyond getting in the top four. I genuinely believe Ivan Gazidis will have leverage over a new man in a way he doesn't with Wenger, I think Gazidis bringing coaching staff into the club suggests he wants to have control over the structure of the club.
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