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Are either of the two who voted pro Wenger prepared to say why? If it was a joke, no big deal. But if genuine, what's the thinking behind your view? Not asking so you can be pounced on from all sides (although that will happen and I'll probablydefinitely join in) but because I have been trying to find one good reason why the guy should stay and I can't find it. What am I missing?
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In some ways the board have tried to make this all about him by offering the contract and saying Arsene will decide his own future which takes all the heat off them, Wenger in that sense is just trying to return the favour.
Again if I thought he was going to turn around and say well the fans don't want me here but I'll stay anyway, he would have signed the contract already....if he clearly doesn't give a fuck about the negative reaction of fans that contract would have already been signed. I think he's playing for time to get fan opinion back on his side but I think he knows back of his mind he's past the point of no return and the fans won't get back on side.
Either way trying to observe what it all means is largely tea leaf reading anyway, the fact that he is no where near ready to retire should be a surprise to no one. That there is even doubt that he would carry on at Arsenal when there never has been previously suggests he's on a very slender foothold at the very least, not from the board but because the fan base has turned on him.
He needs to go and should have gone years ago to be honest, the fact there's now talk of 4 years just shows what the club and manager think of the fans.
The guy doesn't love Arsenal, if he did he'd be moving on realising noone (except the more delusional) want him here, in the end though I can see the guy staying on and not giving a toss about the fans, it's what he does best to be honest, troll the fans.
He's a total embarassment, but he can't see it.
Wenger really has his work cut out if he wants to preserve his record of top 4 finishes. We actually have a very difficult run-in and if I was a betting man I'd say this is the year we drop out of top 4. Those last 4 fixtures are brutal.
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Southampton P-P Arsenal Sat 25 Feb
Liverpool V Arsenal Sat 4 Mar 17:30
Arsenal P-P Leicester City Postponed Sat 11 Mar
West Bromwich Albion V Arsenal Sat 18 Mar 12:30
Arsenal V Manchester City Sun 2 Apr 16:00
Arsenal V West Ham United Wed 5 Apr 19:45
Crystal Palace V Arsenal Mon 10 Apr 20:00
Middlesbrough V Arsenal Mon 17 Apr 20:00
Arsenal V Sunderland Sat 22 Apr 15:00
Tottenham Hotspur V Arsenal Sun 30 Apr 16:30
Arsenal V Manchester United Sat 6 May 15:00
Stoke City V Arsenal Sat 13 May 15:00
Arsenal V Everton Sun 21 May 15:00
The whole top 4 thing is a sick joke. We're better off fielding a reserve team against Bayern and taking another hammering so we can rest senior players for a very tough schedule (including those 2 postponed games being inserted somewhere) that we need to conquer if we want to pick up the points to finish top 4 so we can reach next season's last 16 of the CL where we'll get hammered by Bayern. Cyclical insanity, in football terms. But in terms of money - just lovely. It is very, very, very obvious where the board's and Wenger's focus is. Lovely, lovely money.
Sir Chips Fuckturd has already proclaimed we won't be paying the necessary wages to have top players at the club. So we're never winning, or even properly competing in, the CL under this regime. So my preference would be to send the first team out against Bayern with instructions to recover their pride and show the fans there's still some hope at this club. Even then, it's pretty sad when "glorious failure" becomes the best outcome you can wish for. But there it is, that's what the board and Wenger have reduced this club to.
After that, take each one of those games and do whatever it takes to win each and every one of them. Punching, kicking, biting, or even playing football. Hoofing the fucker, actually running a bit, being professional, responsible, more determined than the other guy, more desperate to win - Well we won't do any of that.
So finishing outside the top 4, given we can forget about attracting top players either way, is not such a bad thing. At least it breaks the cycle and disrupts this horrendous money making scheme the suits have stuck the club with.
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Genuinely don't give a shit where we finish anymore.
For sake of the club and the fans who do care, hopefully we finish as high as we can but it won't make a difference to the loser mentality that flows through the club.
This club isn't setup to compete, we have everything we need financially but we have this real losers mentality running from top to bottom, another sign of it is that despite raking in the cash we won't pay the going rate for top players, we really are cheap...yet we're happy to offer kids new contract after new contract for achieving nothing, the lack of common sense is alarming.
Why are people willing to pay top whack for such a sub standard product (and it is sub standard) is beyond me, the cherry on the cake is that despite paying rdiiculous money they are then patronised and blamed by the club.
I can't think why anyone would want this regime to carry on to be honest, 4 people on here seem to want it, surely that's a joke?
I'm the same, in previous years I was anxious but this year I'm not actually fussed, 4th,5th,6th or 7th, none of it means anything anymore because nothing will change.Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Yep, the "losing is acceptable" culture needs to be removed before we can really move forward and start competing properly.
I don't imagine they see it as a "losing is acceptable" culture. They'll look at the balance sheet, look at the financial growth, look at the money coming in from "trophies" such as the "Top 4 World Championship" and the "20 Years CL Appearance Super Cup", look at the tens of thousands in the stadium and the sponsorship deals and every other indicator and I'm sure they think it's all a resounding success. They have said it. They are perplexed at why the fans can't see the glory too. Before Wenger came we had X millions in the bank, now we have X times infinity millions in the bank. We are also "Best Financially Run World Champions" for the 20th year running. We have retained the "Moral Superiority Cup" for 2 decades running. Players such as Fabregas, Arshavin, RvC, Ozil and Alexis have graced the team while passing through. And yet this isn't enough for the fans who keep going on about league titles and European titles even though it makes no significant difference financially whether you win these things or not. Obviously the fans know nothing about finances, in their blind ignorance they criticise Wenger who is the undisputed financial master of Corporation Football. But that's okay because these fans are in the process of being priced out, so the fan base is a short term problem that will be solved in the near future.
They'll look at the drop dead gorgeous, uber sexy, smoking hot share price and whip their tool into a lather. If this is "losing" they can live with it. For as long as they can keep the gravy train on the rails.
And unless Alan Greenspan is available, Wenger will be staying so we can have years more of this unprecedented success. So what if a few oiks don't have the grace or breeding to show a bit of gratitude?
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