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    Laissez faire?

    What fucking choice do we have in all of it.

    4th place is regarded by most clubs as a springboard to something else, our club treats it like its the ultimate goal

    And so what if we finished outside of Europe? If Wenger stays the chance is we won't qualify again for a while anyway. We can't do anything about this, we have a manager who does not give a shit about anything but his own prestige and we are meant to care?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Laissez faire?

    What fucking choice do we have in all of it.

    4th place is regarded by most clubs as a springboard to something else, our club treats it like its the ultimate goal

    And so what if we finished outside of Europe? If Wenger stays the chance is we won't qualify again for a while anyway. We can't do anything about this, we have a manager who does not give a shit about anything but his own prestige and we are meant to care?.
    We have a choice. Support the team. Support them if they're losing.

    Or don't support them. Pretend we're not bothered. Claim that the club is killing us.

    That's our choice.
    Formerly TMOKJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    We have a choice. Support the team. Support them if they're losing.

    Or don't support them. Pretend we're not bothered. Claim that the club is killing us.

    That's our choice.
    Give over fella, you think the teams performances are to do with the lack of support from the fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Give over fella, you think the teams performances are to do with the lack of support from the fans?
    So booing your own players helps? That's the flip side of the coin, isn't it? Booing Walcott as he trudges off the pitch at the Hawthorns is going to galvanise him into playing better in the next match?

    Let's face it, that doesn't help, either. That's counter productive and just adds weight to the mockery that our fanbase is fast becoming...which, ironically, leads me full circle back onto Arsenal Fan TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    So booing your own players helps? That's the flip side of the coin, isn't it? Booing Walcott as he trudges off the pitch at the Hawthorns is going to galvanise him into playing better in the next match?

    Let's face it, that doesn't help, either. That's counter productive and just adds weight to the mockery that our fanbase is fast becoming...which, ironically, leads me full circle back onto Arsenal Fan TV.
    This isn't a one season blip. Everything has limits and we're way beyond the limits of reasonable patience waiting for the club, the team, the manager, the players to perform. Do you not suspect that if the fans just sit there and cheer this lot they'll react by taking the piss? Don't you think that finally, this lot need a huge kick up the arse, particularly as the manager seems incapable of delivering it? Walcott, he's the most senior player at the club now. What has he achieved in his time here? Not even one full season of consistency, if we are to be honest. Boo him, don't boo him, I doubt you'll get anything out of him. It's too comfortable for everyone on big rewards at this club, way too comfortable. Nobody is under any serious pressure to perform and so they don't. The fans are the only group left who can demand some accountability and raise the pressure. But we have that other group of fans, in lockstep with a media in turn tucked into Wenger's pocket - the fans who tut and wag fingers when the slightest criticism is raised. Fine, but please try to recall that this is a competitive sports club. The aim is to win, it is not to build bean bag chill zones and safe spaces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    This isn't a one season blip. Everything has limits and we're way beyond the limits of reasonable patience waiting for the club, the team, the manager, the players to perform. Do you not suspect that if the fans just sit there and cheer this lot they'll react by taking the piss? Don't you think that finally, this lot need a huge kick up the arse, particularly as the manager seems incapable of delivering it? Walcott, he's the most senior player at the club now. What has he achieved in his time here? Not even one full season of consistency, if we are to be honest. Boo him, don't boo him, I doubt you'll get anything out of him. It's too comfortable for everyone on big rewards at this club, way too comfortable. Nobody is under any serious pressure to perform and so they don't. The fans are the only group left who can demand some accountability and raise the pressure. But we have that other group of fans, in lockstep with a media in turn tucked into Wenger's pocket - the fans who tut and wag fingers when the slightest criticism is raised. Fine, but please try to recall that this is a competitive sports club. The aim is to win, it is not to build bean bag chill zones and safe spaces.
    It's hard not to disagree with the bit in bold.

    There is a third set of fans. They'll go to the matches, they'll cheer on the team in spite of bad results. That doesn't, however, (and I can't stress this enough) make them complicit with Wenger and the cronies on the board. They are also dissatisfied.

    In my opinion, the Wenger Out protests have to be before or after a game. Better still, have another one this coming weekend during the international break. I'm sure elements of the 'silent majority' will attend too. Furthermore, an organised protest will raise eyebrows with the people that matter (those pathetic leeches in the media) and they'll know that this isn't reactionary. Even if Wenger does/doesn't sign a contract a contract, protests every weekend of the close season during the summer will raise eyebrows and ruffle feathers, too.

    One thing we can't have is an insipid anger in the stands. Wenger Out, yes. Fight your own fans, no. The respectability Arsenal fans once had has diminished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Laissez faire?

    What fucking choice do we have in all of it.

    4th place is regarded by most clubs as a springboard to something else, our club treats it like its the ultimate goal

    And so what if we finished outside of Europe? If Wenger stays the chance is we won't qualify again for a while anyway. We can't do anything about this, we have a manager who does not give a shit about anything but his own prestige and we are meant to care?.
    This!

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