Alexis Sanchez (official).

[Power n Glory]

There is no-one out there. Not one person. Who seems to be able to get us going again when things go against us. We have no captain. I mean, Walcott. Really?
Our problems run deeper than that of course but it is an issue which needs addressing IMO.

Alexis is that one player and shifting him out to the left blunts his influence. We're back to seeing the same sort form we saw from him last season when struggling.

[Letters]

Alexis is the one player who definitely wants to win. I'm sure others too at some level and for various reasons they've just given up.
But while Alexis can win a game on his own when playing well and in the right position, he doesn't seem to be able to stop the others from playing like *****.

[Power n Glory]

Alexis is the one player who definitely wants to win. I'm sure others too at some level and for various reasons they've just given up.
But while Alexis can win a game on his own when playing well and in the right position, he doesn't seem to be able to stop the others from playing like *****.

I honestly think we'd have seen a different outcome if we'd have gotten that first goal. From what I saw, it didn't look like we went out there to get rolled over.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I honestly think we'd have seen a different outcome if we'd have gotten that first goal. From what I saw, it didn't look like we went out there to get rolled over.

You're probably right. But the problem is the reaction to going a goal down

We have been a long time under Wenger, the Goldilocks team everything has to be right for us. We weren't playing badly before 1-0 but we were living dangerously in defence.

[selassie]

It's far worse than it's ever been. We're past the tipping point now, there's no coming back from this.

the club need to make a statement today. the fans deserve to know what's happening.
There's never been such ill feeling, it's really sad and depressing.

Yep, how I see things too. It's actually becoming damaging now.

[Letters]

Exactly, I agree if we'd got the first goal we'd probably have won but this lot are so fragile, their heads go down so quickly when things don't go our way and there is no reaction from anyone.
You can't win games with any consistency when the mentality is that fragile, back in the day I was never worried when we went 1-0 down as I always believed we could and would come back. Not now.

[KSE Comedy Club]

It was clear to me after the first 10 mins that we weren't going to achieve a lot in the game. We started off by passing backwards, then sideways, then sideways, then back...... over and over.
As soon as Palace got the ball they sprinted towards goal and had a dig.

There has been a few comments from people I know today and from the commentary last night about how to break teams down that sit deep, 11 men behind the ball, etc, but the fact is that in most cases, those teams can be broken down with a fast counter attack.

The reason they are able to get 11 men back behind the ball is that we spend so fucking long passing the ball around our own half that we go nowhere and gain no ground against our opposition.... its pointless football. I said last night that we offered no attacking threat what so ever - and the stats back that up 100%.

There were at least 3 instances where we had a little break and could've made a run at palace's goal, but on all three occasions, we stopped and looked to pass off to the wing or across midfield.
There was no pride, no energy, no sense of urgency about anything the players did last night.

Only one team turned up wanting to play a game of football.
The others were at the training ground practicing their triangle passing.

And once again, Wenget only gets up to moan at the fourth official when we are losing.

So sick of it all

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

This definitely feels different, it's always been that Wenger has never failed too hard there is a certain level we fall to and bottom out. Normally because he is a reactive and not a proactive manager and never starts to address the difficulties until it's already too late.

I don't think he knows how to arrest what's going on any more, he has a lot of hubris so he still believes he can but it's like a man trapped in the desert who believes a rainfall will miraculously appear and save him.

[Niall_Quinn]

We had a bright start but after the first goal and seeing how hard it was to break down Sam's team, I wouldn't be surprised if it looked like the team had given up. But I highly doubt it started that way because we came off the back of a 3-0 victory against West Ham.

I don't know all the coaches and managers in the game, but Wenger, for sure, is down there with the very worst of them in terms of being able to deploy tactics on a football pitch, respond to a change in tactics by the opposition and, maybe he's the worst ever at this, motivating a group of players to win. Fat Sam toyed with him yesterday and then took the piss out of him with a big grin on his face afterwards. Where's Wenger's pride FFS? Either get even or get out, but don't sit there taking beating after beating and grinning while piss is hitting your face. What's he trying to prove by humiliating himself and the club in this manner?

Anyway, last time out against West Ham Alexis and Ozil, Theo and Elneny started to find a small groove, a glimmer of form, a hint of confidence. Yes, against a poor West Ham but against a PL team nonetheless and we haven't seen any of that for months. Wenger snuffed it out. At the tail end of a dismal season it's still business as usual for the idiot. We must rest players for the next game, player X's energy levels are in the amber zone, we must give Ramsey a game, I must show them all that Giroud is not second rate... Ozil and Alexis would have looked at that and thought, never mind, just a few more games to go and then off to a real club.

Wenger would be more effective doing NOTHING. Don't even turn up to the games. Don't turn up during the week. Leave the players alone. We'd get better performances and better results, I'm certain of it. Leaders would emerge to fill the universe sized vacuum left by Wenger's ego and control freakishness. If he insists on staying then it should be on the condition he's not allowed anywhere near the club. I'd be okay with that. It's not ideal, but he'd get his money and the players would be a whole lot better off.

[Niall_Quinn]

There were times under Graham when it was pretty bloody awful and I wondered when the next win (even next goal sometimes) was coming from but even then you felt that for a big game here and there they could raise it. Not now.
It really is pathetic and only Wenger going is the only way things will start to change - even then with our board I'm not sure how much change it will effect but it's a start.
And those claiming 20:20 foresight, I don't believe any of them really thought we'd be THIS bad this year.

We had some rough times, particularly under Terry Neill. But it always felt like a football club, through thick and thin. Not now. This doesn't feel like a football club. It feels like something else. Its purpose is not to win, that's for sure. Years ago they could have demonstrated they had some interest in winning, but behind the scenes it has been about something else. Not football. In some respects any manager would have struggled under such an anti-footballing regime. But the fact it has been Wenger there, this messiah of sustainability with his fanatical views on how the game should be, right or wrong, has compounded the disaster and accelerated our transition from a football club to a mortgageable balance sheet asset. That's what we are, a financial vehicle run by an economist and owned by a vampire squid.