Alexis Sanchez (official).

[Niall_Quinn]

There is no-one out there. Not one person. Who seems to be able to get us going again when things go against us. We have no captain. I mean, Walcott. Really?
Our problems run deeper than that of course but it is an issue which needs addressing IMO.

Theo was doing okay up until yesterday. He'd started to show some fight and was getting involved in games. Yesterday he checked out again. There reaches a point where even millionaire players are going to wonder what the point is. And what is the point? 4th place trophies? So we can get creamed next season in the last 16 of the CL with millions watching? Must be pretty fucking embarrassing to be involved with. When you have a fool that urges you to be average so we can achieve the next humiliating pay day. Yes, players should be able to motivate themselves and they should play for the shirt. But this has been going on for a long time now and when the shitty owners come out an voice their approval then what can be done. Where are you going to find that motivation to rise above average when average is the goal that has been set? I'm not excusing the players but in this place, try, don't try, it doesn't make a difference and the board and the manager won't notice anyway. You're just as likely to be dropped for a good performance under this manager.

[AFC Leveller]

I don't think it's down to the players not playing for the manager anymore. I think there is obviously a divide between the players, the mentality is basically one of "we don't give a fuck about each other" and when you have Walcott as captain it speaks volumes.

It is a desperately sad situation and the lack of action from the board is alarmingly bad. The divide is across all levels from fans to squad to board level and the uncertainty around the managers future is killing it off.

[Niall_Quinn]

Alexis is that one player and shifting him out to the left blunts his influence. We're back to seeing the same sort form we saw from him last season when struggling.

Alexis was on for the Golden Boot. Did you really expect Wenger not to fuck that up? Hell, he watches out for players on 2 goals so he can yank them and prevent the hat trick. He's an arrogant contrarian and a moron.

[Niall_Quinn]

It was clear to me after the first 10 mins that we weren't going to achieve a lot in the game. We started off by passing backwards, then sideways, then sideways, then back...... over and over.
As soon as Palace got the ball they sprinted towards goal and had a dig.

There has been a few comments from people I know today and from the commentary last night about how to break teams down that sit deep, 11 men behind the ball, etc, but the fact is that in most cases, those teams can be broken down with a fast counter attack.

The reason they are able to get 11 men back behind the ball is that we spend so fucking long passing the ball around our own half that we go nowhere and gain no ground against our opposition.... its pointless football. I said last night that we offered no attacking threat what so ever - and the stats back that up 100%.

There were at least 3 instances where we had a little break and could've made a run at palace's goal, but on all three occasions, we stopped and looked to pass off to the wing or across midfield.
There was no pride, no energy, no sense of urgency about anything the players did last night.

Only one team turned up wanting to play a game of football.
The others were at the training ground practicing their triangle passing.

And once again, Wenget only gets up to moan at the fourth official when we are losing.

So sick of it all

Wenger will win the Possession Cup. He my miss out on the coveted Top 4 World Champions Super Trophy but we have extended our dominance in the Possession Cup. He mentioned it again yesterday, after our thrilling display of possession football. We had 72% possession, the highest in the league this season.

[Marc Overmars]

I don't think it's down to the players not playing for the manager anymore. I think there is obviously a divide between the players, the mentality is basically one of "we don't give a fuck about each other" and when you have Walcott as captain it speaks volumes.

It is a desperately sad situation and the lack of action from the board is alarmingly bad. The divide is across all levels from fans to squad to board level and the uncertainty around the managers future is killing it off.

The manager is holding the club at his mercy. How can we expect any kind of comradery from the players when the manager has set such a pathetic example. He's dicking around and so are they.

[AFC Leveller]

The manager is holding the club at his mercy. How can we expect any kind of comradery from the players when the manager has set such a pathetic example. He's dicking around and so are they.

He's being selfish as he clearly wants to announce he is staying but is waiting for a couple of wins to do so. Does he think we are a couple of wins away from forgetting all the mess that's going on? He is deluded if he thinks that.

[GP]

I'm certain that they were waiting for a run of wins to announce the new contract. Problem is, we're not capable of putting a run together right now.

If he stays on now then we might as well just give up.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenger will win the Possession Cup. He my miss out on the coveted Top 4 World Champions Super Trophy but we have extended our dominance in the Possession Cup. He mentioned it again yesterday, after our thrilling display of possession football. We had 72% possession, the highest in the league this season.

This is true.

Its all about the possession with him. The theory is sound - however, Wengimp seems to have rubbed out the part of the equation that says that maintaining possession of the ball can win you a game after you have actually scored - with some kind of cushion.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's being selfish as he clearly wants to announce he is staying but is waiting for a couple of wins to do so. Does he think we are a couple of wins away from forgetting all the mess that's going on? He is deluded if he thinks that.

He won't see it as selfishness, he'll view it as him being the only guy in possession of all the facts and him being this great, experienced, 20K subs made coach who speaks and holds the world in thrall. You can see this as he grins away when exasperated pundits ask him about his plans. The great man denies them access to that privileged information, but soon, soon they will know. At the right time, at a time of The Wenger's choosing. Perhaps he will make his announcement from atop the mountains? Perhaps his new contract will be carried down the mountainside in a golden ark.

It might even be fair to accept that a manger is likely to be in a better position to know and judge these things, and certainly the board should be. But Wenger has one small problem, a decade of these nods and winks and grins and promises trailing behind him in the ruins of successive seasons. Collapsed hopes and ambitions strewn across the battlefields back through squad era after squad era. Nobody except Ty believes his bullshit any more. The only great Wenger secret yet to be revealed is whether he's deluded or whether he's been part of this transition from football club to private bank. Has he convinced himself before trying to convince us, or has he been just flat out lying?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I have copied and pasted a lot of the online gooner articles onto here as they are pretty insightful and well written

Their polling of fans has produced the following

Should Wenger stay beyond the current season

13% - yes

43% - No but no protests

44% - No and yes to protests

I think this is a fairly good summation of how the fans break down, 87% of fans want him to go......but half respect him too much to want him hounded out. I don't think the 44% want him hounded out either in truth, but they believe the man is too arrogant to recognise himself that he can't hack it any more.

I doubt even Zim would want Wenger hounded out if he genuinely believed Wenger would go of his own accord.

Been re watching the Sopranos lately as I love the show genuinely think it's the best American tv show ever made. I feel at the moment a bit like Tony when he realises Pussy is wearing a wire and finally confronts him saying "why are you making me do this, you miserable fuck?"

Doesn't want to kill one of his closest friends, but he knows Pussy has brought it on himself