Wenger Referendum IV

[Globalgunner]

In fairness a coaching role and a sky pundit one simultaneously is pretty much unheard of and is not something any other high profile coach is doing regularly. Wenger was not necessarily wrong to make him choose.

Steven Gerrard at Pool is a pundit and coach. No its not unheard of. Im sure there are others. Difference is Wenger has ultra thin skin. Some say wafer thin.

[Gooner23]

If he were to leave in the summer I would be hopeful we could rebuild fairly quickly. However another 2 years of Wenger and I'd really fear for the position we'd find ourselves in.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Steven Gerrard at Pool is a pundit and coach. No its not unheard of. Im sure there are others. Difference is Wenger has ultra thin skin. Some say wafer thin.

Very convenient to say that now...... that is a recent appointment and was not in place at the time of Henry choosing what he wanted. I take the point about the manager's underlying issues but in isolation I didn't think Wenger was wrong. But yes, I know we all have to do down his every decision and past achievement now we all want him out. I want him to go if only to hear the unbearable end of the hyper revisionism of his past!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Henry is still a coach with Belgium too, so he'd have three jobs?

I don't think so.

[Globalgunner]

Very convenient to say that now...... that is a recent appointment and was not in place at the time of Henry choosing what he wanted. I take the point about the manager's underlying issues but in isolation I didn't think Wenger was wrong. But yes, I know we all have to do down his every decision and past achievement now we all want him out. I want him to go if only to hear the unbearable end of the hyper revisionism of his past!

You said it was unusual. Time has got little to do with it. Im sure if I could be bothered there would be other examples. Revisionism. Yeah, we are mentally erasing all those CL titles and PL wins in the last 13 years as we go, By the end of this season he will have none.

[Globalgunner]

Henry is still a coach with Belgium too, so he'd have three jobs?

I don't think so.

If he had been a coach with us I doubt he would have taken the Belgium job...at least I would hope so. If he took it now he would have to drop that gig. Its not happening anyway. Wenger rules the roost till May at least.

[Power n Glory]

Very convenient to say that now...... that is a recent appointment and was not in place at the time of Henry choosing what he wanted. I take the point about the manager's underlying issues but in isolation I didn't think Wenger was wrong. But yes, I know we all have to do down his every decision and past achievement now we all want him out. I want him to go if only to hear the unbearable end of the hyper revisionism of his past!

I didn't agree with that at all and couldn't see why something couldn't have been worked out. This is Thierry Henry and Arsene Wenger! They know each other and have a relationship. Why Wenger couldn't trust Henry to do both jobs professionally or to keep what he does at Arsenal out of his punditry work, I have no idea.

He trusted Henry enough to come back and train with the team when he was playing in New York. Different circumstances and roles and Thierry isn't the only former player to come back and work with the team in an unofficial role, but I think it's selfish of Wenger. These guys are good enough athletes and he's OK developing them physically, but seems unwilling to develop them mentally. Why hasn't he taken on a former player to mentor? Why not bring them on to do their coaching badges? He talks about giving back to the game but I don't like the look of this picture.

[Power n Glory]

You said it was unusual. Time has got little to do with it. Im sure if I could be bothered there would be other examples. Revisionism. Yeah, we are mentally erasing all those CL titles and PL wins in the last 13 years as we go, By the end of this season he will have none.

I think the 'revisionism' stems mostly from what former players have said about Wenger and previous teams.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

You said it was unusual. Time has got little to do with it. Im sure if I could be bothered there would be other examples. Revisionism. Yeah, we are mentally erasing all those CL titles and PL wins in the last 13 years as we go, By the end of this season he will have none.

It is unusual which is precisely why you need time to name more than 1 example with the example you named being a very recent precedent. Nobody suggested anybody is erasing titles but you can maintain that absurd line of thinking if you wish.

People are only suggesting that an U18 coach would have any authority to question Wenger because it is Thierry Henry, not because he is the U18 coach. If that is the case, then why does he need a coaching role...? He's Thierry Henry, has a personal relationship with him and can question him in private without fear of losing his job anytime he likes as can David Dein who has also maintained he is still close to Wenger.

In reality Henry would have less authority than Bould, and many have lamented his lack of influence so I'm not sure why this Henry thing is even much of an issue. If he has a taste for it, Henry will remain a coach longer than Wenger will and may come back to the club anyway especially as Josh Kroenke seems to be besotted with him.

[Özim]

Wenger's had a comfy pundit role with French TV. Seems like a double standard.

Very hypocritical, but Wenger probably doesn't see it that way, there's one rule for him and a different rule for others.