Originally Posted by Özim
Some great points in there DOG. I think it's safe to say this summer is going to be very interesting in terms of how we move forward as a Football club and Wenger is right in the middle of all of this. In an ideal world Wenger will step down but I have a feeling there are going to be more twists and turns in this saga due to the power struggle being played out between Gazidis and Wenger.
This post possibly needs to be moved to the other Wenger thread but I thought I'd post it here anyway...quotes have been taken from this article on Arsenal.com, Wenger's press conferences quotes.....
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...-conference-es
It is disastrous, the team has gone backwards. Does he not care about winning? Why the laissez faire attitude? It is incredible TBH.on what finishing on 75 points and winning FA Cup would mean to him…
It would mean that the season has not gone as well as I hoped at the start of the season. Not as well as I hoped at the start of the season because I started the season to win the Premier League and when you don’t do it, you’re never completely satisfied, like everybody else. But as well, it’s not disastrous. I think what’s encouraging is the way the team develops recently and the way the ambition of the team is back. Overall I think it’s difficult to get points in this league, it’s difficult for everybody.
Sigh......on whether he thinks a possible 75-point total would show progress…
I don’t want to go into conclusions too early. It shows that if you can make 75 points it’s a decent total because I won the championship with 78. But this season it looks at the end of the season that many teams who have been assured to stay in the league have just released their focus and as well, you had basically two leagues, the top six and the rest of the Premier League. Everybody took too many points from lower teams. That usually did not happen in the years before.
I think 75 points would be the highest tally to miss out on top 4.
That's been our points average for over a decade now. We've stood still for years and now finally others have caught up and levelled the playing field. We completely missed our window of opportunity to at least deliver one title while the other clubs were going through transition. Stability is overrated, especially when what is considered stable seldom delivers anything of note.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 15-05-2017 at 11:37 AM.
Near enough it's actually 73 points - our average point accumulation since moving to the Emirates
Not that I want to be a pedant or anything
I don't think he can spin this successfully, eight defeats in 18 games is mid table form at best
He's lost his leverage in post season discussions. If he wants to stay he will probably have to accept big change.
Doubt we will get the 75 points. Everton at home wont be easy. Even though there is nothing to play for Koeman is one of those managers that seems to have Wenger`s number. I forsee a draw.
Make 2mrw better than 2day
He is totally deluded, he thinks a few meaningless wins at the end of the season affter a string of disastrous results and a season filled with awful performances shows the team is developing.
I just don't think there is a more delusional, more oblivious person to what's happening in front of his eyes in the world of fooball today, you really have to ask what is wrong with him.
Personally I think he accepts being 2nd best, his words and actions prove that, he's not a winner in any real sense these days.
This made me laugh as well:
Hmmm really, interesting he thinks doing our job properly is winning a few meaningless games at the tail end of the season, what about the games we get hammered in when it actually matters?on why we tend to finish the season strongly…
Because we do our job properly and we are focused until the end. As long as we are in competition, we prepare the teams well and that’s why we were always finishing strong, because we kept our focus.
Last edited by Özim; 15-05-2017 at 01:03 PM.
If you use AFTV as a guide of what fans think, then they seem encouraged by the tactical change and the results and seemingly seem reasonably happy. I know people say he won't get off scott free, but from the only feedback we really get from fans at matches, the negative feeling towards him has calmed significantly after a handful of wins, I think people seem to have accepted the inevitable and are looking for encouraging signs of which in reality there are none.
Last edited by Özim; 15-05-2017 at 12:59 PM.
Give it a rest. Should fans be miserable even when we play well and win?
Of course things have calmed. But it's possible to be happy when we are playing well and still want Wenger gone (unless it's you of course).
Happy with the game and results to wanting Wenger to sign a new deal should be kept separate.
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