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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Perhaps not with the results in the season, but at the end of the day the owners determine the ambition of the club and what they'll accept, Abrahmovic won't accept 2nd best consequently Chelsea are successful and when there are blips he's quick to change things, Kroenke sits there and accepts the club being also rans (as he does with his other franchises), therefore it's is his fault, he should not be willing to accept what Wenger has delivered in recent years.
    Abramovich bought the club as a pet project not for money purposes, it was never a business investment for him so no comparison can be made.

    Kroenke is never going to care about what we achieve as a football club. Like I said to you the other week he will only act against Wenger if the share values depreciate

    Wenger has betrayed himself as a sad, desperate man whose only concern is keeping his job because he has nothing else going on in his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Perhaps not with the results in the season, but at the end of the day the owners determine the ambition of the club and what they'll accept, Abrahmovic won't accept 2nd best consequently Chelsea are successful and when there are blips he's quick to change things, Kroenke sits there and accepts the club being also rans (as he does with his other franchises), therefore it's is his fault, he should not be willing to accept what Wenger has delivered in recent years.
    Yep totally agree. Kroenke only cares about his investment, he's only invested in the financial side of things, he doesn't care about the sporting performance, he has said as much on a number of occasions.

    Wenger is essentially not judged on a performance/results basis. He is actually a law to himself, he decides what constitutes as a successful season, he pretty much said this the other day when he came out with that nonsense about points total for the season etc

    Wenger is actually a fraud, he's constantly shifting targets, I'm honestly so angry with him and Kroenke, they disgust me and I wish they would just leave, I mean nobody even wants them here it's ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Abramovich bought the club as a pet project not for money purposes, it was never a business investment for him so no comparison can be made.

    Kroenke is never going to care about what we achieve as a football club. Like I said to you the other week he will only act against Wenger if the share values depreciate

    Wenger has betrayed himself as a sad, desperate man whose only concern is keeping his job because he has nothing else going on in his life.
    I agree yes, but there are other owners who sees success as the goal and aren't happy with just being also rans, the more successful you are the bigger you get (just look at Man U and how big they have got from the success they achieved), we're very much stagnating. At the end of the day if he was a good businessman he'd take the money and leave, he's be getting a huge profit on his investment, doesn't seem to want to though despite the downward spiral of this club which will no doubt probably result in a lower share price.

    You're not wrong there, this myth that he loves the club is precisely, nothing he does indicates a love for the club in a true sense of the word.

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    Trust us to get bought by the only billionaire who isn't interested in us winning trophies and being completely successful

    If Kroenke took the £1bn he would have made a very tidy profit, so he is just another greedy twat.

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    Looks like things may get interesting - for another day or two at least:

    http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...ty-Shareholder


    ARSENAL shareholder Alisher Usmanov is reportedly preparing a second bid worth around £2billion to seize control of the club.

    Alisher Usmanov owns a 30 per cent stake in Arsenal and has reportedly already made a £1billion offer to take full control of the club.

    The Russian oligarch wants to buy out current majority shareholder Stan Kroenke who holds 67 per cent of the club's shares.

    Reports claim the American has knocked back Usmanov's initial offer and has no intention of selling up.

    The 69-year-old reportedly intends to stay with the Gunners for the long term.

    However, Usmanov has responded and is said to be preparing a second offer, doubling his original bid to a staggering £2bn.

    The 63-year-old's move to seize control of Arsenal is part of a larger plan to increase his influence over the day-to-day running of the club.

    The Russian currently has no say in the decision-making and is keen to have more of an involvement at the Emirates.

    He is also known to have a fractious relationship with Kroenke and claimed last month the American entrepreneur must take responsibility for the club's current struggles.

    "I do not think that the coach alone is to be blamed for what is happening," Usmanov said.

    "I personally, unfortunately, am fully isolated from decision-making in the club.

    “All the responsibility for the fate of the club rests with the main shareholder.”

    The Uzbekistan-born businessman is reportedly worth around £11.2bn, making much of his wealth in mining and investments.

    Kroenke, meanwhile, owns a portfolio of sports teams including the LA Rams and Denver Nuggets.

    He bought a £500m ranch in Texas in February 2016.
    Usmanov is also a supporter of Arsene Wenger and demanded stability last month amid calls for the Frenchman to leave the club from the supporters.

    "Some continuity is needed," he said.

    This includes the need to prepare a successor for Wenger, but in a very respectful way.

    "I can suggest that Wenger himself can prepare a successor."

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    No thanks.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    "I can suggest that Wenger himself can prepare a successor."
    Chilling.
    Für eure Sicherheit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Chilling.
    Admittedly, that is the only part that worries me tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    No thanks.
    fattist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Chilling.
    Yup, one clown is enough.

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