OK, IMO we need 2 and a new manager. If we don't have a new manager then I don't think it matters who we sign (given that realistically we won't be signing several really world class players).
But the point here remains that some people's default option now is to disagree with anything that Wenger says or does, even if they agree with it, just because it was him or said or did it.
That is silly.
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
With Wenger in charge, Real Madrid and Barcelona would be struggling to make top 4 in La Liga.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
No, they wouldn't. This is exactly the sort of silliness I'm talking about.
With Wenger in charge, Real Madrid and Barcelona would be struggling to make top 4 in La Liga.
I think all the indications are that Wenger is staying, the signings, the comments, not doing a lap of honour, saying no director of football would come etc etc.
This was about transfers however and once again we seem to be aiming for those cheap nobodies, that's let's face it nobody really wants here after years of underachievement, this is nothing new. With the exception of Sanchez we've signed noone top class that we planned to sign, Ozil was an opportunist panic buy at a time when the club was under pressure. Our general signings have been cheap nobodies, truth is what we need now is a few worldies, not projects, not unknowns, not kids...proven world class players.
If we're after the freebie and this guy it just shows nothing is changing really, yes you could wait till well into the season, truth is though history shows we don't go for top class, last summer is was Xhaka (unknown), Mustafi (unknown) and Perez (unknown), they didn't come cheap, because we massively overpaid due to dragging our heels and Borussia seeing us coming from a mile away, but they were not good enough to take us to the next level because none of them were world class (one barely even got a game, so that was a total waste).
As for 2 signings, we have an ageing defence, no strikeforce or wingers and a midfield who can't defend, two players won't fix all that.
Last edited by Özim; 23-05-2017 at 03:48 PM.
Yes, I admit, my default position is to be against everything Wenger says or does. I think that's a healthy position, given the history.
However, if he shows any sign he's prepared to change, prepared to try something new (which I don't think his back 3 is btw, for many reasons), then I'll hold judgement and wait and see. And I'll also credit him for waking the fuck up and smelling the decaf.
Until then, I'm against him. Full stop.
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WE, Arsenal FC, are struggling (actually failing) to make the top 4 in a PL brimming with shit teams that can't compete in the CL. I wouldn't be so sure Wenger doesn't have it in him to bring Madrid down a peg or two and make then profitably average. That's what he does.
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Zim, I don't think the transfer window has even started and in every transfer window teams sign a mix of players. Last summer Chelsea spent a fair amount but also signed Pablo Marí for Ł170k Aaron Mooy for free.
I seriously doubt this is our marquee signing for the summer, it doesn't show anything.
Against him is fine - I'm against him too in the sense that I want him to leave.
But against EVERYTHING he does? Now that's just silly. And this nonsense about Real is the exact sort of thing I'm talking about, even if you think they would get worse under him - not in itself an unreasonable position - you actually think that in a league which is pretty much a duopoly they would struggle to even finish in the top 4 under him? Be serious. This is the first year we've failed to do it under Wenger and the PL is a far more competitive league than La Liga.
If we lose Alexis (pretty much guaranteed) and sign a (so-called) replacement then we've gone nowhere. So that won't be in the least bit acceptable. Let's bear that in mind. Standing still is not an option.
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I am being serious. We've already witnessed a league that Leicester City conquered. There's real evidence to play with, we don't have to rely on supposition. The only ridiculous thing to say would be Wenger couldn't compete if every other team dropped out. And even then, I think he could find a way.
He's a shit. Not as a person (at least I can't prove that conclusively) but as a manager. An absolute shit.
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