Wenger Referendum IV

[Power n Glory]

If it's true than plenty of managers are guilty of it

Alex Ferguson especially. None of his guys Keane, Bruce, Giggs, Neville have made it that sucessfully as managers.

This isn’t an argument about success. It’s about passing down knowledge to your players and being a mentor. Fergie didn’t create a successor for Man Utd but passed on his knowledge. What’s disturbing to me is the way Wenger seems so resistant to embracing former players.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Adams was a great Captain. I still remember vividly Ray Parlour's otherwise excellent debut where he nearly burst into tears when giving away a penalty at Anfield. Adams was there for him, as he was there for Beckham against Argentina when the rest of the team, coaches and pretty much the entire nation turned against him.

However, his record as a coach and the general impression he gives, in no way suggests he has anything to offer in a coaching role.

Also, his first autobiography was as boring. Boring as shit. Too bad he has to pump this one up by throwing the man who guided him to unparalleled success towards the end of his career under the bus.

[Niall_Quinn]

Chesney's take on it as he contemplates the horror of soon being back under Wenger's "expert" tutelage.

The biggest thing I have taken away from these two years at Roma is the fact I grew as a goalkeeper. It’s just raising your levels, your standards. I absorbed a bigger knowledge of football, the tactical side of the game.

[Özim]

Adams was a great Captain. I still remember vividly Ray Parlour's otherwise excellent debut where he nearly burst into tears when giving away a penalty at Anfield. Adams was there for him, as he was there for Beckham against Argentina when the rest of the team, coaches and pretty much the entire nation turned against him.

However, his record as a coach and the general impression he gives, in no way suggests he has anything to offer in a coaching role.

Also, his first autobiography was as boring. Boring as shit. Too bad he has to pump this one up by throwing the man who guided him to unparalleled success towards the end of his career under the bus.

I remember that game, Parlour looked a reall energetic prospect but then gave away a penalty.

As for the other part, Adams/Bergkamp and co ensured unparalled success for Wenger, their leadership, discipline on the field was passed on from one team to another, once that was lost we've seen what happens, it wasn't a one way relationship. Adam/Bergkamp and co were successes before Wenger arrived.

At the end of the day he's entitled an opinion, lots of former players have come out and spoken about Wengers flaws, he's an incomplete manager who requires players to do important part of a managers job for him, he's more of an economist/football manager, which makes it ever stranger that he doesn't value leadership, he's a man who fails to acknowledge his limitations, arrogance of the highest order.

[Globalgunner]

I remember that game, Parlour looked a reall energetic prospect but then gave away a penalty.

As for the other part, Adams/Bergkamp and co ensured unparalled success for Wenger, their leadership, discipline on the field was passed on from one team to another, once that was lost we've seen what happens, it wasn't a one way relationship. Adam/Bergkamp and co were successes before Wenger arrived.

At the end of the day he's entitled an opinion, lots of former players have come out and spoken about Wengers flaws, he's an incomplete manager who requires players to do important part of a managers job for him, he's more of an economist/football manager, which makes it ever stranger that he doesn't value leadership, he's a man who fails to acknowledge his limitations, arrogance of the highest order.

Totally agree. Worse still he is addicted to power. Even now at almost 70 he cant see what time it is

[selassie]

The biggest thing I have taken away from these two years at Roma is the fact I grew as a goalkeeper. It’s just raising your levels, your standards. I absorbed a bigger knowledge of football, the tactical side of the game.

Chesney's take on it as he contemplates the horror of soon being back under Wenger's "expert" tutelage.

Only just seen this post/those quotes NQ.

Sad but hardly surprising. Chesney isn't the first player to come out with statements like this, IIRC Cesc said something similar regarding his time at Barca and now Chelsea. He basically said that we don't really study or develop when it comes to the tactical side of the game at Arsenal, it's all technical work.

[Niall_Quinn]

Rumours that L'Massive Loon is going to start Ospina rather than Cech in the final. Would make perfect sense to Le Bumbling Idiot. Cech is on great form so bench him, especially as we have lost two key defenders too.

Maybe sell Bellerin before the game?

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger's poisonous attitude summed up. We don't need the CL now because we get more money from elsewhere. Here it is, from his own trap.

'Because today the television money makes the weight of the television money much weaker but at the time it was absolutely needed so that was for me the biggest period of pressure between 2006 and 2014,'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...riod-life.html

It's all about the money with him. Has been for a long time (read that however you want to).

[Power n Glory]

Stadium payments were £15m to £20m a year according to Wenger. How much were we getting from CL money and generating from the stadium along with player sales?

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...r-stadium-debt

[Özim]

Wenger's poisonous attitude summed up. We don't need the CL now because we get more money from elsewhere. Here it is, from his own trap.



It's all about the money with him. Has been for a long time (read that however you want to).

Yeah he also thinks the television money makes the weight of television money much weaker!

But yeah sums him up, always changes the rules to suit his agenda.