Wenger Referendum IV

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yeah he also thinks the television money makes the weight of television money much weaker!

But yeah sums him up, always changes the rules to suit his agenda.

No he means the tv money from the sky and BT deals make not getting in the champions league less of a blow to the club financially and in that respect he's right.

Don't get me wrong I think it's deplorable that he's essentially boasting that he's under no pressure, and that the only pressure he was under for years was to get top four (although undeniably in some seasons in that time, it was a big achievement).

Let's be fair he's hardly the only manager to change the goalposts to turn underachievement into success. Certain diminutive Portugese gentleman did that this season.

But yeah the guy is essentially saying I delivered for the club for years, so they owe me.

[Letters]

But yeah sums him up, always changes the rules to suit his agenda.

FFS! Will you stop breaking my irony-meters

[selassie]

For all of Wenger's faults and he has plenty of them he absolutely delivered today. He got the tactics spot on, I felt we dominated in every area and if it wasn't for poor finishing we would have won by 2 or 3 goals.

I truly hope this is it for Wenger now and he is going out on a high, obviously I want whoever takes over from him to be top class but I feel now is definitely the time for him to say goodbye.

[Marc Overmars]

Ultimately, this is why Wenger is no longer good enough. It takes him until our season is dead in the water to make the changes required to rejuvenate the team. Happens every season when we're struggling, we can't keep being left thinking; why the hell couldn't we find that courage and fight earlier in the season?

I hope he calls it a day but I think it's obvious he's staying on.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's delivered a trophy and that's what any fan would want. Some excellence, in some respect. Facing up to a challenge and reaching the top of the pile. It's not the biggest trophy, it's the third biggest. But it's bigger than that ridiculous 4th Place Super Trophy. I've been talking to spuds today and they are trying to celebrate the 2nd Place World Cup Euro Olympic Champions Trophy. I'm not buying, because it's as pathetic as us taking selfies after coming 4th.

So Wenger has done good today and he deserves credit for that. I still want him to go and he still drives me into berserker rages when he opens his mouth and starts blaming the fans. But if he's staying, and it's 99% sure he will, then I hope he savours what it feels like to win and then ditch his fucked up penny pinching and holier than though philosophy and really engage with this league and the challenge and go all out to win it next season. Fuck it. Spend big keeping Alexis and Ozil and Ox here. And then spend big some more bringing in the extra quality we need. Just fucking do it. The fans love the trophies, they don't celebrate the balance sheet and tell tales about how we generated record returns on investments. We aren't cheering for prudence today, we're cheering because there's silver in the cabinet and we played fucking well and we beat the PL champions and we broke some records and it was fun to experience. Let's get the priorities right.

[Letters]

If he stays and, let's face it, he will, then we have to push on and have a proper title challenge next year.
He is the reason we expect to be up there challenging every year and he is the reason we've failed to.
But some credit where it's due, 3 FA Cups in 4 years is an impressive record.
Pleased for Wenger that he's now got the outright record and we do as a club, he deserves this.
It would be nice for him to go out on this high, the risk is he will stay and he'll lose any good will this win has bought him if things go wrong next season.

[Power n Glory]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40069681

I don't know if he's staying for sure. Above interview was before the game. He said he won't forget the way he's been treated and that it's a disgrace. When questioned at the end of the game about his future he ducked the question. He didn't come out and say he wanted to stay. Maybe he wanted to avoid giving away more headlines but the past couple of interviews from Wenger has only muddied the waters.

Also, a lot of people said he lost the dressing room. What could he have said to get them back fighting?

It's not clear for me. But we'll find out next week.

[Letters]

I do think some of the treatment of him has been pretty disgraceful, the level of disrespect and abuse he gets on here is out of order IMO.
He's delivered 3 trophies in 4 seasons - and OK, the FA Cup has lost some of its lustre but can people please stop pretending they don't care about it, the reaction on here again shows they do. He's failed to challenge for the biggest trophies and that's why he should go but he's not been the catastrophic failure some people make out.

[Marc Overmars]

No he doesn't deserve the level of abuse he's got over the past year but by the same token he's come across as very arrogant. He's fallen short of his own criteria this year and deserves to be called out on that.

His record in the FA Cup is unmatched and his legacy is secure, however this is as good as it's going to get with him. It's enough for some but it's easy to see why we people think we have so much more potential that's just waiting to be tapped into by a better coach.

[Globalgunner]

I do think some of the treatment of him has been pretty disgraceful, the level of disrespect and abuse he gets on here is out of order IMO.
He's delivered 3 trophies in 4 seasons - and OK, the FA Cup has lost some of its lustre but can people please stop pretending they don't care about it, the reaction on here again shows they do. He's failed to challenge for the biggest trophies and that's why he should go but he's not been the catastrophic failure some people make out.

Complaining about not winning or even challenging the for the league is not disgraceful. Being humiliated 10-2 by Bayern or 15-3 in 3 matches . Now thats disgraceful!. The problem with Wenger is that he is too comfortable. It took all these so called insults to get him to buck up his ideas. Even his players admit that they are not properly prepared for games. Too much of that laissez-faire attitude is what perennially costs us the league. 1 stupid performance at the start of the season is ultimately what cost us his 4th place title. I knew it wouldnt take much for you to start crooning about him again.

Bottom line...and we have seen it over and over again. If he gets a new contract he will go back to his idiosyncratic ways, buying players that he likes, rather than he needs and losing quality every season because no top player wants to stay for his never ending quest for personal validation instead of trophies. We are in the Europa next season. As a shit Utd have shown, any decent team can win that. Can Wenger do it? or will it be another, "lets give him the benefit of the doubt, he will improve next season"

This game has shown that the problem with this team is not so much quality as attitude. Next season when playing the likes of Southampton or Crystal Palace, they should play like this and not stink the place out.

Everything of course depends on Sanchez. If he does not see the FA cup as a mark of progress, we will be at least 40% less a team without him.