Wenger Referendum IV

[Letters]

When there is something approaching good discourse on here, you can be relied upon to come in and fuck it up.

Explain how. You think the things I've quoted above from other people are "good discourse"?

This discussion started when I was replying to a link PnG posted about which PnG said, in part. "He said he won't forget the way he's been treated and that it's a disgrace."
Maybe that wasn't the main point of PnG's post but the headline of the article was "Arsene Wenger: Arsenal manager describes criticism as 'a disgrace'" so I responded to that with my thoughts. Is that not legitimate? Why not? And then the responses were all the nonsense I quoted above. And I'm the one messing up "good discourse"?
Jog on, fella

[Niall_Quinn]

Explain how. You think the things I've quoted above from other people are "good discourse"?

This discussion started when I was replying to a link PnG posted about which PnG said, in part. "He said he won't forget the way he's been treated and that it's a disgrace."
Maybe that wasn't the main point of PnG's post but the headline of the article was "Arsene Wenger: Arsenal manager describes criticism as 'a disgrace'" so I responded to that with my thoughts. Is that not legitimate? Why not? And then the responses were all the nonsense I quoted above. And I'm the one messing up "good discourse"?
Jog on, fella

And then you quoted one of my GW posts as an example

[Letters]

Yes, because it's that sort of thing I was talking about. I seriously doubt he reads this place but equally I doubt he is oblivious to the howling derision on Social media.
I also said that if he's talking about the stuff in the ground then I don't think that is out of line.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes, because it's that sort of thing I was talking about. I seriously doubt he reads this place but equally I doubt he is oblivious to the howling derision on Social media.
I also said that if he's talking about the stuff in the ground then I don't think that is out of line.

I don't think you know what the hell you are talking about.

But it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. I made a pratt of myself for laying into Bif just as he was assisting the winner in the FA Cup Final. You made a pratt of yourself with all this shit. Internet forum. Fan banter. That's how it goes.

You can be sure of one thing though. Wenger doesn't come within a million miles of the fans. He won't have a clue what the real sentiment is. He's seriously out there thinking we're ungrateful bastards and that we owe HIM. He really does. Just listen to him. Which is why I have no time at all for anyone who jumps on his pity train. He's lucky this is Arsenal. No other fanbase on the planet would put up with this shit, that's for sure.

[Niall_Quinn]

Adams throwing big punches.

Wenger has faced the hardest campaign of his 21 years at Arsenal with a growing number of fans calling for him to be released at the end of his current contract. After winning the FA Cup, however, he is set to sign a two-year extension.

Adams isn't surprised because he believes the 67-year-old retains full control over all matters at the club, accusing the board of taking the money Wenger earns them and doing 'nothing' else.

He also doesn't buy into Wenger's claim of loyalty. He has regularly cited the fact that he has stayed with Arsenal despite a host of other offers but Adams says he would not have lasted more than a year at Real Madrid and, instead, he has 'free rein' at the Emirates.

Adams continued: 'That’s why I think he’ll hold on to Arsenal. He said "I’ve turned down every club in the world." But he would’ve been sacked after a year at Madrid. He would’ve had to go to from club to club.

'But, at Arsenal, he’s got total dominance. The board do nothing. Arsene has a free rein. He’s earning them so much money he can do what he wants. And I don’t think Arsene can let go. It’s an addiction.'

[Xhaka Can’t]

I've just noticed a few occasions where you have disrupted a really good flowing discussion pointing out the least relevant part of people's posting and either completely taking it out of context or posting some dumbass smiley. We all do that sometimes but I've just noticed it more from you.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Adams throwing big punches.

Every time he's thrown a punch as a manager, it has been a swing and a miss.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Adams throwing big punches.

I know nobody (the football world at least) seems to rate a word adams says but he is spot on with it here.

He may not be the 'right man' to say it, but what he says is right.

[GP]

Adams is a bitter old drunk.

[Niall_Quinn]

Every time he's thrown a punch as a manager, it has been a swing and a miss.

We can't forget that there was an Arsenal before Wenger and Adams was part of that. A shit manager himself, maybe. But perhaps it takes one to know one? The complaint with Wenger is not that he can't put together a team to challenge for the top 4. Until very recently at least, we know he can do that. So he's well ahead of Adams in that respect. But when we talk about what it takes to step up to the next level and challenge for that top spot, it seems Wenger has forgotten more that Adams has ever learned. Which means we're fucked. Nobody is saying Wenger out, Adams in. They are just saying Wenger out.