Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

[Letters]

there's a move to make Wenger's record significant.

Seems to be more of a move to make Wenger's record insignificant from people who cannot bear to see him get credit for anything.

[GP]

Seems to be more of a move to make Wenger's record insignificant from people who cannot bear to see him get credit for anything.

Of course, that's all it is.

Wenger has always valued the FA Cup. His record speaks for itself.
Compare with his record in the League Cup. Tells you all you need to know.

[Power n Glory]

Of course you have to have been at a club for a long time to set this kind of record. No-one is going to win the trophy every year. But that doesn't mean that being a long time manager guarantees you that sort of record.
George Ramsey was at Villa 42 years and won it 6 times, Wenger has beaten that in 20.
Zim is basically saying that it's not an impressive record because Wenger has been around for ages so of course he's won it a lot. Doesn't really follow.

It follows. There is a guy on that list that won it 5 times in 8 years. That's really impressive. Wenger's record is nice for the history books but I'm not going to go overboard with the praise because the competition is not what it was.

[Niall_Quinn]

Seems to be more of a move to make Wenger's record insignificant from people who cannot bear to see him get credit for anything.

I mean more significant than it really is in terms of his overall record. His FA Cup record is, of course, unmatched. In terms of the FA Cup alone, Wenger is at the top of the list. But in terms of his overall record as a supposedly top manager, his FA Cup record can't mask the fact he's yet to win a single European title. Can you be considered a top tier manager without winning a European trophy? I doubt it.

At the start of this season just gone, particularly following on from a failure to compete with even Leicester City, had you asked fans if an FA Cup win this season would be considered enough, even if we didn't challenge for the title, even if we didn't challenge for the CL, the answer would be no I think.

Well here we are at the end of the season. No challenge for a title, humiliation in the CL, we don't even have CL next season. But we have the FA Cup and Wenger has broken the record for number of wins - in fact even the emphasis there is all wrong. The emphasis should be on Arsenal's record 13 wins, not Wenger's 7. leaving that aside, listening to some fans now claiming we've had a successful season based on the back of this cup win, well that's a joke. Listening to them going on about FA Cup records and Wenger's personal achievements, it's a joke. Listening to them lay in to anyone who suggests this has, in fact, been a whopping failure of a season is a joke. Because it has been a failure. We didn't move to the Emirates to win FA Cups and fans shouldn't be expected to pay the highest ticket prices in the world for a day out at Wembley. Hull and Wigan fans can get that a hell of a lot cheaper.

So yes, Wenger's record in the FA Cup is the best. No arguments about that from me. But in context, trying to bloat it up to something more significant than it is is simply another way for Wengerites to cling on to some sort of justification for the devotion in the face of an obviously declining club and a manager incapable of turning that around.

[Özim]

The record of who has won it suggests otherwise. You said it is no surprise Wenger won it so often.

Given what you have said about him, it should be more surprising than when Surprisey McSurpriseface leapt out of the Surprise cake at his brother Supersurprise's surprise birthday party at number 7 Surprise Street, Surpriseville.

Yes it is no surprise, why is it so complicated to understand that he has had more opportunities than almost anyone else?

Maybe, but like I said the fact other big clubs haven't prioritised it has made it easier, we played Villa and Hull in two finals, this year we played better team but the previous two cups were fairly easy routes.

[Niall_Quinn]

Gareth Bale?

Would he be enough to convince Alexis and Ozil to stay?

Bale, Alexis, Ozil plus a premium striker?

Plus we'd finally have a player who is good at avoiding injury in the penalty box.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Yes it is no surprise, why is it so complicated to understand that he has had more opportunities than almost anyone else?

Maybe, but like I said the fact other big clubs haven't prioritised it has made it easier, we played Villa and Hull in two finals, this year we played better team but the previous two cups were fairly easy routes.

You talk about Wenger as if he has difficulties eating with utensils so yes, it is a surprise. Many other Managers have had as many opportunities throughout the history of the competition.

There have been countless managers and still are that have had all those opportunities managing in England. They may not have been at one club as long, but they have had the chances.

You think he is shit, I think he is toast but the complete bollocks you spew makes this place look like a board of mongs.

And anyway, to move those goalposts back to where you shifted them from, I find it incredible that someone is as big of a Mong as you for suggesting that the man who stands alone as the most successful manager in the history of the 145 year competition has devalued it.

[Marc Overmars]

Gareth Bale?

Would he be enough to convince Alexis and Ozil to stay?

Bale, Alexis, Ozil plus a premium striker?

Plus we'd finally have a player who is good at avoiding injury in the penalty box.

Bale will probably end up at United if he leaves Madrid.

We don't dine at the top table in the transfer market, never did when we had CL football and certainly won't now we're in the EL.

Forget about a marquee name this summer. The best signing we can make is Alexis.

[Power n Glory]

I mean more significant than it really is in terms of his overall record. His FA Cup record is, of course, unmatched. In terms of the FA Cup alone, Wenger is at the top of the list. But in terms of his overall record as a supposedly top manager, his FA Cup record can't mask the fact he's yet to win a single European title. Can you be considered a top tier manager without winning a European trophy? I doubt it.

At the start of this season just gone, particularly following on from a failure to compete with even Leicester City, had you asked fans if an FA Cup win this season would be considered enough, even if we didn't challenge for the title, even if we didn't challenge for the CL, the answer would be no I think.

Well here we are at the end of the season. No challenge for a title, humiliation in the CL, we don't even have CL next season. But we have the FA Cup and Wenger has broken the record for number of wins - in fact even the emphasis there is all wrong. The emphasis should be on Arsenal's record 13 wins, not Wenger's 7. leaving that aside, listening to some fans now claiming we've had a successful season based on the back of this cup win, well that's a joke. Listening to them going on about FA Cup records and Wenger's personal achievements, it's a joke. Listening to them lay in to anyone who suggests this has, in fact, been a whopping failure of a season is a joke. Because it has been a failure. We didn't move to the Emirates to win FA Cups and fans shouldn't be expected to pay the highest ticket prices in the world for a day out at Wembley. Hull and Wigan fans can get that a hell of a lot cheaper.

So yes, Wenger's record in the FA Cup is the best. No arguments about that from me. But in context, trying to bloat it up to something more significant than it is is simply another way for Wengerites to cling on to some sort of justification for the devotion in the face of an obviously declining club and a manager incapable of turning that around.

[Letters]

You talk about Wenger as if he has difficulties eating with utensils.