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    As for Coquelin's loan spell at Freiburg, from what I read on Bleacher Report a while back, he was being used as a utility player. Left back, right back and central midfield. Make of that what you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Which time?

    1. the one where Flamini left in 2008 because we made a mistake not to offer him a good enough contract early?
    2. the one where Flamini returned last season, pointed and shouted a bit and landed a 3 year contract on fan hype that the club is now regretting?

    Coquelin's played a handful of games and could easily become the poor performer that didn't impress at Charlton or in the Bundesliga last season. I wouldn't offer him a contract right now, I'd wait until the end of the season. I doubt a better club than Arsenal will offer him a contract, and whether he stays or leaves, we should get Schneiderlin anyway.
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    I would rather we offer a contract to a player who is playing well than hope that we will sign someone world class and go through their 'adaptation period'. Not asking us to offer the world to him, but clearly we can offer him a contract extension just as a backup. We have Diaby's salary going off the book soon... and hopefully Arteta or Flamini as well!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    We all know how things will go down in the summer. How many years have we been stalling on signing a top DM now because we refuse to part with the cash? Very risky to let someone with potential go in hope that we do business in the summer. We'll get to the negotiation table and then get scared off by the price. That's when we go into another season where we've left ourselves short in a key area. The fact that Coquelin can also cover the fullback positions should add more weight to his value in the squad.

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    Ideally Arteta and Flamini will be moved on, then Coq can stay to compete with a new CM.

    However I expect Coq to leave, he obviously wasn't in Wenget's plans and an emergency recall because of the injury pile up doesn't change that. Not even sure how good he is but hopefully he continues to a do a job then we'll see what happens in the summer. If he keeps churning out these performances then I'm sure he'll have a lot of interest and fancy leaving for a more established role anyway.

    Either way, we still need an upgrade in this area.

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    All depends on what the board and manager wants. If it's more of the 4th place trophy and the odd cup run the players like Coquelin and Giroud can do that. If we want to win titles and seriously compete for the CL then second tier players (which is what they are) won't do it. I think we know what the fans want, but that won't matter.
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    People not wanting to give Coquelin a contract but back Arteta

    Luckily they're clueless.

    As for Wenger, tactics spot on yesterday.

    Great to finally get an away win against a top 4 side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    All depends on what the board and manager wants. If it's more of the 4th place trophy and the odd cup run the players like Coquelin and Giroud can do that. If we want to win titles and seriously compete for the CL then second tier players (which is what they are) won't do it. I think we know what the fans want, but that won't matter.
    I think Giroud is growing in stature and although he isnt world class, id keep him and would go as far as saying he can be good enough as a starter. His hold up play and duals with the best CBs in the league show he is a real handful. He has scored against Man ure, liverpool, city and everton and against spuds many times as well so he can be relied on in the big games.

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    [QUOTE=She Wore A Yellow Ribbon;441167]People not wanting to give Coquelin a contract but back Arteta

    Luckily they're clueless.

    As for Wenger, tactics spot on yesterday.


    It is really ironic for many people who call Wenger clueless manager while they are themselves clueless fans . Coquelin is a treasure in our own hands and costs nothing . People should give him full support and wish he signed his contract as soon as possible . A marquee player doesn't always guarantee good performance . Ozil came with drums and trumpets and made all of us very excited . What is happening now ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    1.

    I would rather we offer a contract to a player who is playing well than hope that we will sign someone world class and go through their 'adaptation period'. Not asking us to offer the world to him, but clearly we can offer him a contract extension just as a backup. We have Diaby's salary going off the book soon... and hopefully Arteta or Flamini as well!
    I don't think the two things are mutually exclusive, especially if Wenger decides to be ruthless for a change and get rid of Arteta and Flamini this summer.

    Also, usually if you buy real quality the "adaptation period" isn't really a thing. Look at Alexis ........ barely even needed a couple of games to get used to the league. Especially as well in the DM position, which is usually a physical role and so the player would be more capable of adjusting to the physicality and intensity of the PL (see Matic) ............. though it's perhaps a good argument for Schniderlin as he's already PL ready.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Ideally Arteta and Flamini will be moved on, then Coq can stay to compete with a new CM.

    However I expect Coq to leave, he obviously wasn't in Wenget's plans and an emergency recall because of the injury pile up doesn't change that. Not even sure how good he is but hopefully he continues to a do a job then we'll see what happens in the summer. If he keeps churning out these performances then I'm sure he'll have a lot of interest and fancy leaving for a more established role anyway.

    Either way, we still need an upgrade in this area.
    My thoughts exactly, keep Coq to challenge whatever world class DCM we bring in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    All depends on what the board and manager wants. If it's more of the 4th place trophy and the odd cup run the players like Coquelin and Giroud can do that. If we want to win titles and seriously compete for the CL then second tier players (which is what they are) won't do it. I think we know what the fans want, but that won't matter.
    I disagree. I think our current squad + a solid CB (Reid) + Good tactics is good enough to challenge strongly for the title. The part of good tactics is in bold because even average teams can do miracles with proper organization. An example was yesterday and also our CL run where our defense was immense. Giroud and Coquelin flanked with super talents like Ox, Santi, Sanchez, Koscielny are as good as any out there to win the title.. we just need to get our organization right!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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