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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Fed has Raonic next I forgot to mention, Fed is playing many moons better than last year of course but he isn't much fun to play against.
    Fed took Dmitrov to the cleaners, and I think if he plays with the assurance with which he played against a tough serving opponent like Mischa Zverev. I would make him favourite, Raonic has done well to get past Sascha Zverev who I believe will be the next multi grand slam winner but I don't see a repeat of last years semi final.

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    Brilliant from Nadal and Muller.
    Just caught up on this as I had to go out.

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    You can't make it up.

    Mannarino - Djokovic on tomorrow. At 12, on centre court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    His luck in the draw might have something to do with the fact that he's world number one.

    Quite frankly after tonight, whoever played Marin Cilc on Wednesday would have got bulldozed. Rafa Nadal has had an exceptional year, and he absolutely blitzed everyone to win the decima of Roland Garros titles but there's a reason he's only twice made it into the second week at Wimbledon since 2011 and it's because the surface tends to fuck his knee.

    Your dislike of Murray aside, he's done exceptionally well to fly the flag for British Tennis in the way he has. I don't regard having to play Djokovic in two of your three grand slam title wins fortuitous. And on his day Murray can beat anyone on grass (took Federer apart in the Olympics final only weeks after having lost to him in the Wimbledon final).

    I don't think he will win Wimbledon this year, I think that's going to be whoever wins the likely semi final between Djokovic and Federer.
    Not in this case, what I meant is the fact that at Wimbledon the top players on his side of the draw often get knocked out and he then gets to play some nobody who beat one of the top seeds in his one and only great match, that's not down to him, that's luck.

    I don't rate Cilic that highly, sure he's good against the lower ranked players but against the top players he get dispatached pretty easily, I think Murray pretty much has a walk through to the final now with Nadal gone, that's why I wanted Muller to lose, it would have made for a better semi-final. As for the grass, it's actually better on your knees than the harder surface as it reduces impact on the joint, the only issue is players slipping, I'm not too sure why Nadal isn't the same player he use to be on grass, from what I saw yesterday his shots don't seem as accurate or as deep and he played a lot of shots back to the centre of the court, a lot of them also lacked the bite they do on clay.

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    Nadal wasn't ever going to make it to the semi-final stage, Wimbledon is gone for him these days.

    Low bounce (comparative to clay) fucks him up; it doesn't benefit him to be able to play with such heavy topspin with the ball not bouncing high - plus for the opponent it doesn't leap up on them as severely.

    On clay he can slide, combined with his ridiculous energy, he can be an absolute brick wall - it's more difficult on grass to do so.

    He doesn't need it anymore, he has won it twice - reached five finals in a row (of when he played). Very similar to Federer on clay really.

    It's a bit unfair to say Murray often gets the top seeds in his half and gets knocked out, that's not his fault. I think you could level the same accusation at many a slam triumph and I will point out, he has won Wimbledon only twice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Not in this case, what I meant is the fact that at Wimbledon the top players on his side of the draw often get knocked out and he then gets to play some nobody who beat one of the top seeds in his one and only great match, that's not down to him, that's luck.

    I don't rate Cilic that highly, sure he's good against the lower ranked players but against the top players he get dispatached pretty easily, I think Murray pretty much has a walk through to the final now with Nadal gone, that's why I wanted Muller to lose, it would have made for a better semi-final. As for the grass, it's actually better on your knees than the harder surface as it reduces impact on the joint, the only issue is players slipping, I'm not too sure why Nadal isn't the same player he use to be on grass, from what I saw yesterday his shots don't seem as accurate or as deep and he played a lot of shots back to the centre of the court, a lot of them also lacked the bite they do on clay.
    http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017/...-season/66872/

    As Mac stated

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    Muzza and Querrey 1-1.

    Muzza was up a break in the second set but lost it 6-4.


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    And he's a break down in the fifth, he looks fucked.

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    Murray out.

    From serving for the set at 5-4 in the third set to losing the next two sets 6-1 something clearly went wrong with him fitness wise.

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    Roger Federer a set and two breaks up against Milos Raonic who at 1-5 is serving to stay in the second set

    Raonic and Dmitrov both tough customers especially on Grass, Federer is showing he's really the man to beat here

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