Who would have thought that signing a player purely based on stats was maybe not the wisest idea. What a weird club.Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Gabriel could be on his way out. Valencia interested.
So much for that stat software.
Who would have thought that signing a player purely based on stats was maybe not the wisest idea. What a weird club.Gabriel could be on his way out. Valencia interested.
So much for that stat software.
You think he was only signed based only on stats? What's your basis for that?
Have you heard of StatDNA before? The system Kroenke pushed for us to acquire.You think he was only signed based only on stats? What's your basis for that?
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ulista-signing
It's what we used to help us sign Gabriel.“I cannot tell you all but he has good stats,” Wenger said, when asked whether Gabriel had been spotted via the numbers, which StatDNA, the US-based business that Arsenal purchased for £2.2m, supply. Was that a yes then, Arsène? “It is not a no,” he replied.
Sure, it's used to help identify targets, but we'll scout them as well. It's not purely on stats.
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Aurier is a massive cunt.
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I'm sure all clubs use stats as part of their scouting these days. Buying a player just on the basis of watching him a few times is as ridiculous as buying a player just on the basis of their stats.
I seriously doubt Arsenal or any other club do either.
Maybe not only but they played a big part, the scouts thought he was decent but needed stats to back up their opinion for some reason.You think he was only signed based only on stats? What's your basis for that?
Wenger though looking at stats limited the risk, seems not. Personally prefer the method of signing proven established players, wasting money on player like Gabriel and Mustafi because they're unknown and cheaper in the hope you find a gem is a false economy, we end up wasting millions on rubbish.
Chambers, Mustafi, Gabriel all signed up for decent money and none of them any good. For that we could have signed a top top centre half and had cash to spare, not Wenger though.
From the article you linked to:
Wenger was certainly keener to speak, in general terms, about how the observations of his scouts had to come first. The computer-generated statistics were merely a means of reinforcing judgment.
It’s an exaggeration to say we signed him purely off stats but it’s what brought him to our attention.“Does this system find players for us? That is what we look for, of course, because it is difficult to watch all the games. But what I mean is that if the numbers confirm the eye, it gives you more.
“If a guy [scout] comes home and says: ‘I’ve seen a good player,’ you can statistically observe this player for five, six, seven games. You send him again, he comes back and says he’s a good player‚ the numbers confirm it, you can say the risk is limited. Though there is always a risk.
“We have our own system [through StatDNA], with qualities we think are important. After that, you have the attitude of the player. Because you can have good stats for a while but if you go out every night until six o’clock in the morning, it won’t last.”
Wenger went on to talk about communication being important and how Gabriel not speaking a word of English may be a problem but we still went ahead a signed him.
Did the above occur to them before signing Gabriel or after? Whatever the case, it seems like the stats overruled common sense and now we’re having to move him on. I don’t have a problem with using stats to back up what the eye can see but you have to question the intelligence behind certain decisions.“He does not speak a word of English and that can cost you goals,” Wenger said. “If you mix going forwards with backwards, it can cost you. It is a position where you need to know your partners and you need to communicate as well. We try to teach him the important words. Like ‘Offside.’ And ‘Look at the linesman’.”
From your initial reaction, you had no idea we were using StatDNA. You pulled a face as if to say Zim and Marc were making it up.
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