Mans actually referred to the Arsenal Fan TV poll as a real point of reference.Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Arsenal is so washed as a club now, lol.
Mans actually referred to the Arsenal Fan TV poll as a real point of reference.
Arsenal is so washed as a club now, lol.
Sounds like you belong on there.
I don't really know what to think of Ozil anymore. I like him because he's a classy player but in his 4 seasons here I'd be kidding myself if I said he's really enhanced our game in a way that a so-called lesser player of his style could not have done. The fact he hasn't signed a new deal yet probably suggests he wants to leave however I think it's quite telling that we haven't heard much speculation regarding who might want to sign him. He doesn't seem like a man in demand to me.
Never has one player been absolved of as much responsibility as Mesut Ozil, it's always down to his teammates to provide the perfect environment for him to excel. It's like he's royalty for us but stick him at another top club and I doubt he would be held on such a pedestal. Real Madrid and Ronaldo missed him for all of 5 minutes, they've turned into a completely different animal since his departure.
If the right offer came in I think we should sell him. Oh and for the record I don't think he's lazy and I don't read or listen to what pundits have to say about him, I just don't think he's that good at what we all perceive him to do. If that offends any connoisseur's of the game, then so be it.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 22-08-2017 at 05:20 PM.
Agree with you on Welbeck. A piss poor player so no argument from me. We're not going to agree on finishing.
Back to Ozil...watch the below.
Ox was creating a lot in the first half and created a lot of good chances in 45 minutes. Compare that to Ozil.
- Skip to the 5.16 mark in the video - one cut back to Bellerin blazed high and wide outside of the box. The only chance created in the first half from him.
- At 8.15 Ozil creates the chance for Bellerin which was a tame shot.
- At 8.23 I see the poor header from Welbeck.
I can't see the corner see the corner but couldn't have been a great chance. But these aren't sublime chances that no other player can pull off. It's simple stuff that should be happening consistently. Yes, Bellerin and Welbeck should have scored but you'll see chances created from Giroud, Ox and even Monreal that were of similar if not better quality. It's not enough I'm afraid.
Amen.I don't really know what to think of Ozil anymore. I like him because he's a classy player but in his 4 seasons here I'd be kidding myself if I said he's really enhanced our game in a way that a so-called lesser player of his style could not have done. The fact he hasn't signed a new deal yet probably suggests he wants to leave however I think it's quite telling that we haven't heard much speculation regarding who might want to sign him. He doesn't seem like a man in demand to me.
Never has one player been absolved of as much responsibility as Mesut Ozil, it's always down to his teammates to provide the perfect environment for him to excel. It's like he's royalty for us but stick him at another top club and I doubt he would be held on such a pedestal. Real Madrid and Ronaldo missed him for all of 5 minutes, they've turned into a completely different animal since his departure.
If the right offer came in I think we should sell him. Oh and for the record I don't think he's lazy and I don't read or listen to what pundits have to say about him, I just don't think he's that good at what we all perceive him to do. If that offends any connoisseur's of the game, then so be it.
77% possession against Stoke and not a single chance created for our £50m striker. It's not as if he was any better with Alexis either. I remember watching the first game of the season at the Emirates and seeing the same from Özil when Perez was up front. It's just not enough and we've seen it too often.
Also agree with you on the whole lazy debate. I don't expect to see him tearing about and putting in slide tackes. But the fact is, even if he played Coquelin next to Xhaka or whatever combination that made us more solid defensively in the midfield where Özil doesn't have to track back, he still won't perform to the level expected of a world class talent. Forget Madrid or other elite clubs. If he had to play for a lower league club where the quality bar is even lower than what's here at Arsenal, how would he fair? If he needs world class players around him to perform and perfect conditions, he'd look terrible if he had to play for West Ham.
yeah, they solidified their midfield.
Meanwhile Wumger is just wumming his way through the seasons.
I don't really know what to think of Ozil anymore. I like him because he's a classy player but in his 4 seasons here I'd be kidding myself if I said he's really enhanced our game in a way that a so-called lesser player of his style could not have done. The fact he hasn't signed a new deal yet probably suggests he wants to leave however I think it's quite telling that we haven't heard much speculation regarding who might want to sign him. He doesn't seem like a man in demand to me.
Never has one player been absolved of as much responsibility as Mesut Ozil, it's always down to his teammates to provide the perfect environment for him to excel. It's like he's royalty for us but stick him at another top club and I doubt he would be held on such a pedestal. Real Madrid and Ronaldo missed him for all of 5 minutes, they've turned into a completely different animal since his departure.
If the right offer came in I think we should sell him. Oh and for the record I don't think he's lazy and I don't read or listen to what pundits have to say about him, I just don't think he's that good at what we all perceive him to do. If that offends any connoisseur's of the game, then so be it.
He is great when he decides to show up, but to me, he is completely 'sellable'. I'd sell him and offer the extra wages to Sanchez.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
Alexis is gone. This rotten board is simply waiting for the right moment and the right excuse to announce it. Ozil is gone too, probably next season on a free. So those who are desperate to see the team substantially weakened while holding out hope Wenger will change the habits of a lifetime and adequately replace our losses can be pleased and disappointed at the same time.
He is great when he decides to show up, but to me, he is completely 'sellable'. I'd sell him and offer the extra wages to Sanchez.
The "Ozil didn't show up" myth has no validity whatsoever. He's almost always near the top of yardage covered (the holy grail in English football), passes made (Wenger's holy grail), and possession retained - Wenger's wank material and so vital to us because very few of our players retain possession in the danger zone. And that includes Alexis. You've already seen the effect of losing one genuine talent, Cazorla. Remove Alexis and then Ozil from the mix and check out what you have left. And you might say, we'll just get better players in as replacements. Well there are two major problems with that. First, who will want to come, as they watch out best players walk away? But much bigger than that - Wenger. What's the chance of him signing a genuine replacement? Almost zero. Add to that the inflation in the market and if you think Wenger is going to spend the 80-100 million needed to buy a world class midfield talent then you are in fantasy land. That's what these players are going to cost next season and Wenger wants no part of it.
But Ozil will be gone anyway. Alexis will leave next week, Ozil will leave next season and for several seasons after that we'll be listening to the people who wanted Ozil gone complaining that Wenger needs to sign a replacement for Ozil.
That cock Wenger has a chance to build on the signings of Ozil and Alexis. He chose not to. Mainly because he's a cock. But also because he's a massive fucking cock.
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this is really true. This squad isnt technically solid enough and is loose with the ball. Ozil (and Iwobi) are the only reliable players further up the pitch to keep the ball and make good decisions.
Last edited by mastermind84; 23-08-2017 at 02:56 PM.
That's exactly what we need. To turn our 77% possession domination into 89% possession domination.
Sanchez has a low pass success stat but he's the one that scores the most, came up with the most assists and has been the go to guy when we're in need of a goal. No risk no reward. The last thing we need is to fill the squad with more careful pussies that are afraid to play the risky pass or have a shot. NQ cracks me up because he's the first to rail against the tippy tappy football. The problem isn't retaining possession in the danger zone. If we actually had players that could defend, hold their shape and bother to defend when we lose the ball, we wouldn't have to be so conservative in attack.
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