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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Totally agree, we're also stuck with a bunch of players that were never good enough but that Wenger rated as super super quality if you believe what he says when he's looking for players.
    Players that he can't even get rid of!

    What is it going to take for the board to realise that Wenger has totally botched the technical side of things with Arsenal Football Club?

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    Summed up by Le Grove. Hence why I don't believe the Board are paying much attention.

    http://le-grove.co.uk/2017/08/22/wen...le/#more-23507
    Wenger hemorrhaging AFC cash, the number is quite unbelievable

    Everyone loves a big number to keep focus on what’s going on at Arsenal. I don’t mean to pile pressure onto our faltering manager, but I think a few myths need to be busted about what he’s offering to the club these days, because his ability to turn a profit has diminished at quite a alarming pace. This post aims to showcase just what a state we’re in.

    Prizes:

    Firstly, let’s look at the Champions League. A competition which Wenger has often claimed the mere qualification is a trophy. Well, that trophy isn’t on offer this year. Instead, we’re suffering the indignity of Spursday Night Europa League. The difference in prize money is quite large. If we make it to the last 16 on 4 wins and 2 draws, we’ll earn £5.6m.

    Prize Money for achieving last 16 of UCL: £36m

    Prize Money for hitting same height in Europa: £5.6m

    Net Loss: -£30.4m

    Players:

    Next up, let’s look at the players we have that are currently leaving on free transfers, based on the big man’s say so. I’ll be straight up, we’re not getting anything for Per or Santi. We should be getting something for Jack (£20m), Chambo (£30m), Sanchez (£60m) and Ozil (£40m).

    Total Loss: -£150m (as of Wenger’s stance that they’re all staying)

    Deadwood Wages:

    Now let’s take a look at the problem Alfred called out in the podcast, surplus wages. We have, what, 33 players in our squad? Many of them overpaid to the point they can’t be moved on. We saw Jenkinson move to play with Harry Redknapp because his deal is simply too rich to handle for Premier League clubs. Worth remembering we were in EXACTLY the same position in 2011 after project youth. I have 9 players that class as deadwood. The two richest would be

    Worth remembering we were in EXACTLY the same position in 2011 after project youth. I have 9 players that I class as deadwood. The two richest would be Santi, because he’s broken, and Theo because when one of your highest paid players is a bench merchant, you’d clearly rather not have him around. Others that made the cut were Joel Campbell who is back again, Kieran Gibbs who I was told earns more than the £65k a week I have him on (£80k), along with Ospina, Debuchy, Perez, and Wilshere. Total wage expenditure there is £625k a week, I’ve left Jenks in there because I have my doubts Birmingham are paying full whack.

    Total cost: £32.5m

    All of that money, added together in my clever little spreadsheet takes Arsenal’s potential losses for the year to a whopping £212,885,227.

    Now, you can split hairs on my numbers, but what you can’t do is tell me that there is anyway you can look at those figures and not be absolutely shocked at how badly run we are under Arsene Wenger, Director Of Football.

    I didn’t even get into the figures of what we’re losing on players who’d have become better players under better managers. Let’s be real here, a contracted Alexis is a £100m player in this market. Jack Wilshere is a £50m player if he progresses. Kieran Gibbs, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Aaron Ramsey, Theo Walcott… would all be worth a lot more under better management.

    We are not only a shambles on the pitch, we’re the same off it. Arsenal are in the process of overseeing one of the least effective summers of all time, and what makes it worse, is next year, we’re going to lose 6 players on free transfers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur View Post
    Summed up by Le Grove. Hence why I don't believe the Board are paying much attention.

    http://le-grove.co.uk/2017/08/22/wen...le/#more-23507
    Does it matter if they pay attention? They're as incompetent as the manager, it seems. Or else they are eunuchs in his thrall. Either way, makes little difference. It was absolutely critical for somebody at the club to act and push Wenger out in the summer. They all passed up that duty. That made them all entirely irrelevant. If they can't even do that simple but critical job then what can they ever do?

    This is what happens when a non-football corporatists consumed by greed kidnaps a football club. The history, tradition, the fans, the fate of the club. Fucked. This leech has one focus, positioning his diseased possession to yield the maximum return when the moment comes. He grabbed Arsenal in the right place at the right time when money has been pouring in regardless of performance. Even getting relegated is worth 100 million quid. When Kroenke eventually decides to run with his ill gotten gains he'll leave a shell behind. Like any good corporatist. Unfortunately, that won't happen for a while. They still have their obnoxious Euro project to feast on.

    Wenger watched all this happen. He's guilty.
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    Barcelona will return with a sensational fourth bid worth £138million for Liverpool’s Philippe Coutinho.
    WTF? Is going on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Does it matter if they pay attention? They're as incompetent as the manager, it seems. Or else they are eunuchs in his thrall. Either way, makes little difference. It was absolutely critical for somebody at the club to act and push Wenger out in the summer. They all passed up that duty. That made them all entirely irrelevant. If they can't even do that simple but critical job then what can they ever do?

    This is what happens when a non-football corporatists consumed by greed kidnaps a football club. The history, tradition, the fans, the fate of the club. Fucked. This leech has one focus, positioning his diseased possession to yield the maximum return when the moment comes. He grabbed Arsenal in the right place at the right time when money has been pouring in regardless of performance. Even getting relegated is worth 100 million quid. When Kroenke eventually decides to run with his ill gotten gains he'll leave a shell behind. Like any good corporatist. Unfortunately, that won't happen for a while. They still have their obnoxious Euro project to feast on.

    Wenger watched all this happen. He's guilty.
    I say that because I don't know what motivates the club. It's obvious they're not paying attention to the fans. They've seen the protests, the pres, the blogs, the Tweets, the airplanes Wenger still got a new contract at the end of the day. A couple were saying yesterday that the fans have been tame and silent but I disagree. Last season caught the Boards attention. They can't claim ignorance. They just don't give a shit. Which is why Wenger got a new contract.

    That was always a possibility because the owner only cares about money and by nature driven by greed. But considering we dropped out of the Top 4 and pile of shit sitting in front of him in terms of money we're losing, I would have thought the loss in revenue would have set alarm bells ringing. It hasn't. Wenger still got a new contract. I doubt a season or two of protests and boycotts could even budge Kroenke and Wenger. Just like our season results over the years, we'd need year upon year of decline after decline in tickets sold and revenue. I don't think they're going to act on short term losses which is bad news for the fans.

    What a selfish cunt of a manager we have. In my eyes, he's worse than Kroenke and the rest because he's at the stadium, he's in London and has a connecting with the fans. He's been 100% compliant with the con and it wouldn't have worked without him. He's sold it to the fans. He didn't just watch and observe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur View Post
    I say that because I don't know what motivates the club. It's obvious they're not paying attention to the fans. They've seen the protests, the pres, the blogs, the Tweets, the airplanes Wenger still got a new contract at the end of the day. A couple were saying yesterday that the fans have been tame and silent but I disagree. Last season caught the Boards attention. They can't claim ignorance. They just don't give a shit. Which is why Wenger got a new contract.

    That was always a possibility because the owner only cares about money and by nature driven by greed. But considering we dropped out of the Top 4 and pile of shit sitting in front of him in terms of money we're losing, I would have thought the loss in revenue would have set alarm bells ringing. It hasn't. Wenger still got a new contract. I doubt a season or two of protests and boycotts could even budge Kroenke and Wenger. Just like our season results over the years, we'd need year upon year of decline after decline in tickets sold and revenue. I don't think they're going to act on short term losses which is bad news for the fans.

    What a selfish cunt of a manager we have. In my eyes, he's worse than Kroenke and the rest because he's at the stadium, he's in London and has a connecting with the fans. He's been 100% compliant with the con and it wouldn't have worked without him. He's sold it to the fans. He didn't just watch and observe.
    Let me calm your fears. Kroenke has announced that Wenger will lead Arsenal back to the pinnacle of the game and Gazidis has backed this up by confirming an exhaustive search for a manager revealed we already had the best man for the job. So we're in the best position possible.

    On the offchance you are having doubts about the above, relax. The financial side of things is firmly under control. Forget about all that irrelevant stuff like gate receipts, prize money, transfer balances, in fact forget about football completely. None of that has anything to do with the financial plan. Provided the club can afford to keep its doors open between now and 2019/20 when the new Euro league is announced, all will be well. Arsenal is already locked in as one of the Euro "super clubs" regardless of trivialities happening on the pitch. The cash bonanza that will come (at the expense of every club locked out of the party) will be unimaginable. 32 clubs taking the whole European pie and splitting it before they set boot on a pitch. And, on the back of that, the Arsenal share price continues to soar. Not the real and justifiable price, but the price at least two billionaires (and probably a whole host of potential seedy Asian bidders) are prepared to pay. 2 billion quid is what's being touted. Not bad for a 500 mill buy out supported by a big fat zero additional investment. Now whether the share price can only be realised prior to the announcement of the "secret" Euro league or whether it will hold up afterwards is known only to the likes of Usmanov. Kroenke will have to make his best guess, but I assume he'll play it safe and cash out at a fourfold profit binge.

    So you see, everything is just fine. No need to worry about finances at all. Stan will be fine, and that's the main thing and the thing that every effort within this club is geared to. And that's why Wenger is still here because he's clearly 100% behind all this. Otherwise we'd hear him making noises about wanting more money for players, otherwise we'd hear him speak about ambition rather than sustainability, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing a man who has achieved nothing of significance in a decade hold down one of the top jobs in football.

    Everything is going exactly as planned. It's just that football is not central to the plan. Yes, they still have to pay lip service. So when Stan says Wenger will lead us to glory, he means it. It's just the "us" is him and his cronies, not the club or the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    WTF? Is going on?
    Got to hand it to Liverpool they drive a hard bargain, they don't want to sell him and so far they haven't (reminds me of Suarez when they said the same), respect to them (even if Coutinho isn't worth anywhere near that).

    Better than being a powderpuff club that does deals because of emotional attachment to the player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Got to hand it to Liverpool they drive a hard bargain, they don't want to sell him and so far they haven't (reminds me of Suarez when they said the same), respect to them (even if Coutinho isn't worth anywhere near that).

    Better than being a powderpuff club that does deals because of emotional attachment to the player.
    For some strange reason they signed him onto a 5 year contract last year. Maybe that has influenced the transfer fee in some way? Fortunately we've opted to go for the ideal contract strategy instead.
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    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    That might be fake.
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