Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

[Niall_Quinn]

Aren't Monaco supposed to be oil rich minted? Do they have to sell their best players? They're definitely getting a good price for them at least.

Read an article a while back on that. Apparently all their big name purchases were designed to put the club on the big stage and the intent was always to pull back and manage the club in a sane manner once that was achieved. The opposite of PSG who have embraced insanity with gusto. Everyone is lamenting poor Monaco's team being ripped apart, but apparently that's the plan. Build a good infrastructure, get a good youth program going and then survive by developing talent, getting a few years benefit and selling. They can't attract the crowds, just not enough population, so they need to play it another way. Might be bullshit, but that's what the article claimed. Regardless, they certainly seem capable of developing the talent and they aren't scared to throw some outrageous prices out there. This may be why they have clung to Lemar for dear life. They think he's worth 80 mill but he needs another good season to realise that valuation. And they'll get there because Lemar is an exceptional talent. He'll probably go for more than the 80 next season and for sure we won't get within sniffing distance. If we'd have bid 50 mill straight of the bat we'd likely be welcoming a 100 mill player into our ranks now. But Wenger disagrees with the current market and believes his own valuation somehow are relevant. In many way the bloke is a massive fucking knob.

[Özim]

Read an article a while back on that. Apparently all their big name purchases were designed to put the club on the big stage and the intent was always to pull back and manage the club in a sane manner once that was achieved. The opposite of PSG who have embraced insanity with gusto. Everyone is lamenting poor Monaco's team being ripped apart, but apparently that's the plan. Build a good infrastructure, get a good youth program going and then survive by developing talent, getting a few years benefit and selling. They can't attract the crowds, just not enough population, so they need to play it another way. Might be bullshit, but that's what the article claimed. Regardless, they certainly seem capable of developing the talent and they aren't scared to throw some outrageous prices out there. This may be why they have clung to Lemar for dear life. They think he's worth 80 mill but he needs another good season to realise that valuation. And they'll get there because Lemar is an exceptional talent. He'll probably go for more than the 80 next season and for sure we won't get within sniffing distance. If we'd have bid 50 mill straight of the bat we'd likely be welcoming a 100 mill player into our ranks now. But Wenger disagrees with the current market and believes his own valuation somehow are relevant. In many way the bloke is a massive fucking knob.

Can't disagree with anything in your post.

What's funny as well is Monaco have only been focussed on youth a few years and have developed some top players, we on the other hand have been doing the youth thing for years and years and have produced next to nothing, Wenger had a 10 year plan to produce a top youth system when he arrived apparently, that went well, it's been nothing short of a disaster costing us millions with very little in return, if anything we're less successful with youths than clubs who don't focus on the youth policy.

Embarrassing all round really, just like everything at the club.

[Niall_Quinn]

How can that be withing the FFP rules or whatever.

If you can afford an army of lawyers then you can get what you need from FFP. If not, you are constrained. It has achieved what it was designed to achieve - limit the ability of smaller clubs to challenge the rich clubs. It's a bit like government regulation in industry. Everyone cries about the regulations but in reality they are there to protect the rich because the little guy can't afford to comply. Corruption basically, presented as fair play. All laughable bollocks as can be seen from PSG and the gypos antics, plus Marketing and Barcas behaviour every season. Ironically, Arsenal is run by such massive cheapskates we are genuinely constrained. Apparently we can't add any more to the wage bill without first getting rid of players. Yet PSG can magically pay Neymar 666 trillion a week. Odd indeed.

[Özim]

If you can afford an army of lawyers then you can get what you need from FFP. If not, you are constrained. It has achieved what it was designed to achieve - limit the ability of smaller clubs to challenge the rich clubs. It's a bit like government regulation in industry. Everyone cries about the regulations but in reality they are there to protect the rich because the little guy can't afford to comply. Corruption basically, presented as fair play. All laughable bollocks as can be seen from PSG and the gypos antics, plus Marketing and Barcas behaviour every season. Ironically, Arsenal is run by such massive cheapskates we are genuinely constrained. Apparently we can't add any more to the wage bill without first getting rid of players. Yet PSG can magically pay Neymar 666 trillion a week. Odd indeed.

Missing out on CL football and hoarding average players on huge wages hasn't really helped, most other clubs don't pay average players big wages like us, that's the reason noone wants to touch them, pampered, overpaid, overrated bunch of nobodies we're stuck with.

We're so badly run, thanks to one man, so much to thank him for.

What also makes me laugh is we've only signed two players and so far got rid of two (3 with Jenks), last summer Wenger never complained about the squad size being unmanageable but is now.

[Niall_Quinn]

Missing out on CL football and hoarding average players on huge wages hasn't really helped, most other clubs don't pay average players big wages like us, that's the reason noone wants to touch them, pampered, overpaid, overrated bunch of nobodies we're stuck with.

We're so badly run, thanks to one man, so much to thank him for.

What also makes me laugh is we've only signed two players and so far got rid of two (3 with Jenks), last summer Wenger never complained about the squad size being unmanageable but is now.

This still comes down to being cheapskates, even though our wage bill is big. Sounds counterintuitive, but by refusing to bring in the big names and pay them the big wages and instead imposing a communist style wage structure that (above all else) is containable, we've ended up achieving the worst of all possible outcomes. Overpaid dross, underpaid stars, the inability to attract more stars (even when there are bargains on the table like Vidal and Draxler), the inevitable lack of performance on the pitch, the knock on lack of the big trophies and the whole damn mess feeding back into itself in a vicious circle.

BUT, it has allowed us to claim we are sustainable and well managed financially and boy have we boasted about this unambitious cowardice at every opportunity. We are "the model" for every other club to follow, apparently. Yet no other club actually follows us. Strange that. I wonder why. Event Watford and Hull, Huddersfield and Crystal Palace have bigger balls.

Stick 300k on the table when Alexis asked for it and he'd be signed up now. Instead, haggle, haggle, haggle, try a media assassination campaign, haggle some more and then eventually offer what he wanted, long after the damage has been done. Same fucked up philosophy as the Lemar farce and all those other "almost" signed triumphs.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger confirms Lemar deal is dead. Absolute SHOCKER! This is soooooooo unlucky. We've spent the whole summer chasing this player but wouldn't meet the asking price. How unlucky can you get?

Lemar was Arsenal’s top summer target following the arrival of Alexandre Lacazette.

Arsenal made three bids for Lemar but wouldn’t go as high as Monaco’s £50m asking price.

And now Wenger admits the deal is dead due to Monaco’s business with selling other players.

“It’s dead because Monaco has closed the door definitely,” he said.

And the great man also refuses to rule out the sale of Mustafi. That would be a great move. We need a CB so why not sell two?

Arsene Knows

Rumours of a 70 mill gypo bid for Alexis continue to circulate. I wonder if we'd let him go? I wonder if a bear shits in the wood?

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsene better get his sneakers on and grab his trolley. We need to pick up some abject shit from the bargain bucket before this window closes. What's Kallstrom doing, I wonder?

[Özim]

Wenger confirms Lemar deal is dead. Absolute SHOCKER! This is soooooooo unlucky. We've spent the whole summer chasing this player but wouldn't meet the asking price. How unlucky can you get?



And the great man also refuses to rule out the sale of Mustafi. That would be a great move. We need a CB so why not sell two?

Arsene Knows

Rumours of a 70 mill gypo bid for Alexis continue to circulate. I wonder if we'd let him go? I wonder if a bear shits in the wood?

An absolute joke that excuse because Monaco hadn't sold all those players when we were chasing him, so if we'd gone in and offered the right money we would have most likely got him.

Honestly Wenger is totally cringeworthy, we know what the were doing all along though dragging this out so that they never had to pay out and buy him, it's what they do every season, I hope noone buys into this rubbish anymore.

All of his lame excuses make little sense in the grand scheme of things but he still thinks he's pulling the wool over peoples' eyes, what an intelligent man.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Meanwhile it seems Barca will sign Dembele for €120m+€30m addons (£110m+£27.5m)

[GP]

Dembele seems like a little bitch tbh