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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Liverpool on their way to Monaco to negotiate a 74 million deal for Lemar allegedly

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4836188/Liverpool-FC-officials-fly-Monaco-Thomas-Lemar-deal.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=149 0


    I don't get it, aren't they putting in some lowball offers in first? I thought that was the way you do it?
    They might be playing the agent game. Get the deal done with the club and the player, then refuse to pay the agent. That's a very effective way to scupper a deal. Let's say the agent wants 5 million. Offer him 3 million and not a penny more. I guarantee, this is usually enough to prevent the expenditure and it keeps the fans happy right up until the final moment and then beautifully deflects the blame.

    Knowing Liverpool though, they're probably going to fuck it right up and find themselves lumbered with a young and exciting talent that will add greatly to their squad.
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    Let's hope Monaco don't sell.

    Otherwise we're stuck with Ox.

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    Gibbs says goodbye:

    'Firstly I would like to say how delighted I am to sign for West Brom.

    'It has been an amazing journey to play for my childhood club since I was 14. I would like to thank Arsene Wenger for giving me the chance to start my career and fulfil a dream!

    'Thank you to all the fans, the Arsenal staff, and especially my team-mates who have been there during the special moments and helped me through some tough times.

    'Now it's time for the next chapter with West Bromwich Albion and I can't wait to get started with the boys.'
    Never fulfilled his potential here (join the club) but I can't recall him ever bad mouthing the club or causing off the field issues and he's gone about getting his transfer quietly and without enlisting the media. So good luck to him.
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    Interesting stat on Debuchy from another forum

    Over the last 3 seasons he has collected nearly £11m in wages for making 23 appearances.

    Cashes over half a million in wages per 90 minutes of football played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Gibbs says goodbye:



    Never fulfilled his potential here (join the club) but I can't recall him ever bad mouthing the club or causing off the field issues and he's gone about getting his transfer quietly and without enlisting the media. So good luck to him.
    Nice guy and all that but awful defender, right from day 1 you could tell he couldn't defend but then he started life as winger so it's no real surprise. Sadly he couldn't cross either, nice guy and all that but definitely not good enough for a top club, ridiculously injury prone as well, if you touched him he would get injured for a 2 months.

    Wenger chose to stick with him for years but the guy was really never up to the task, remember when we signed the 5 British players on long contracts (Jenks, Ox, Wilshire, Gibbs and Ramsey), thought it was a stupid move and it's turned out that way.

    None of them have cut the mustard and other than Ramsey none have a future at the club. Waste of resources and waste of time tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Interesting stat on Debuchy from another forum
    Can't blame the player one bit. Wouldn't anyone take the money? All down to Wenger again. He has such a talent for finding the most injury prone players and signing them up to long and lucrative contracts. The Diaby saga has to be one of the biggest jokes in sporting history. But there are plenty of other Wenger classics, Debuchy being one of them. A player who doesn't play and earns a fortune in return. I wonder why we can't sell him? Complete mystery.

    Apparently we can't get rid of Jenkinson either. Negotiations keep stalling because everyone assumes his wages are a misprint.
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    Arsene Wenger has dug Arsenal into a hole they cannot get themselves out of... from the egocentric manager to gutless owners, this is the club's worst transfer window in recent history

    Gunners fan Peter Wood from Le Grove writes for Sportsmail on a turbulent week and an even worse transfer window at Arsenal.

    Make no mistake, Arsenal are overseeing the worst transfer window in the recent history of the club, and damn, there's been some bad ones. This debacle is 10 years in the making and it all centres around Arsene Wenger’s ineptitude, lack of vision and his failure to learn from past mistakes.

    As it stands, six players stand to leave on free transfers next summer with a market value of over £100m. The club has known about this impending disaster all year, and did little to navigate it.

    In fact, Arsene Wenger played up the issue as a positive, stating: ‘It is not an issue, I think it's an ideal situation.’

    This comment was made all the more absurd after he pinned last season's decline on his own contract saga when he said: ‘I think at some stage I did not think it would be a handicap for my commitment and it was not. But it was a bit of a handicap because it created a climate of insecurity and a lack of clarity about my person that maybe did not help at some stage.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...er-window.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Can't blame the player one bit. Wouldn't anyone take the money? All down to Wenger again. He has such a talent for finding the most injury prone players and signing them up to long and lucrative contracts. The Diaby saga has to be one of the biggest jokes in sporting history. But there are plenty of other Wenger classics, Debuchy being one of them. A player who doesn't play and earns a fortune in return. I wonder why we can't sell him? Complete mystery.

    Apparently we can't get rid of Jenkinson either. Negotiations keep stalling because everyone assumes his wages are a misprint.
    Very true, sure Wenger has made a profit etc etc but he's wasted so many resources at the same time, we've probably paid for injured players more than any other club in the hisotry of football in the last decade.

    You're right about Wenger picking injured duds too, I guess it must have something to do with training methods/coaching and the fact we always seem to sign small weak players when what we should be doing is going back the old days of tough, resilient individuals not afraid to get stuck in, players who don't get injured at the mere touch of an opponent.

    Jamie Redknapp summed it up well, powderpuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    All true.
    Great article, but hoping he'll leave next summer is wishful thinking.

    Only an empty stadium will facilitate that and there's no appetite for this in reality, I can't see an end to this, in two years he'll probably re-sign on, he did this summer despite the fans wanting him out, so what will 2 years change?

    By then what will the club look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Gibbs says goodbye:



    Never fulfilled his potential here (join the club) but I can't recall him ever bad mouthing the club or causing off the field issues and he's gone about getting his transfer quietly and without enlisting the media. So good luck to him.
    Was never a great defender, too reliant on his pace for recovery. Under a structured system with Pulis he might still have time to improve.

    Wish him well.

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