G...... ollum.Originally Posted by selassie
G...... ollum.
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I think what Letters is trying to say is that there are people on here that are so pissed off with him now that they need to empty their bladder on his past achievements. Make it seem like they were either fortuitous or not particularly that impressive.
It doesn't, really. But if people start spouting nonsense about how he's the worst manager we've ever had or start questioning whether he was ever any good then I will challenge that. And, for balance, I'd challenge anyone who said that Wenger should currently stay our manager [I'll leave a gap here where you can call me a liar if you like].
This is a board for debating stuff, isn't it? If I see something I disagree with then I have every right to challenge it. Otherwise what is the point of this place?
Which is not what I'm arguing, by the way.
I'm simply arguing that he used to be able to do it, others seem to be questioning that even.
And yes, "so what"? What matters is can he do it now. And it's increasingly clear he can't.
But as I said this is a board for debate and when people start to question whether he was ever any good I'll say what I think.
And much to both our surprise, you agreed with my assessment of that.
Fuck him and his past achievements. A sellout is a sellout. The only thing I'll countenance in regard to the old, weak fool is it's possible, possible, he thought he was doing the right thing. But many who choose the easiest and most profitable path make the same claim.
Nah. Fuck him.
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Are you talking about Letters?
Yes he is the worst manager we ever had. He's also the best manager we ever had. And there's where the problem lives. He's now, EASILY, the worst to ever manage Arsenal. EASILY. I mean where's the debate on this. Look at what he's doing. So what if he used to be the best? So what?
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No.
Ox.
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I don't disagree with your past assessment of Wenger. But I do disagree that it should be in any way a mitigating factor in the horrendous fuckup he's engaged in now. He's the driving force behind this fuckup. Limp dick fucks like Kroenke who use money to replace their manhood, in an age where money is religion, they only have power when men with influence do their bidding and accept their bribes. Kroenke can do NOTHING on his own because he's a shitty arse fag nobody who just happens to have stolen a few quid. Hell, I could blow that cunt over and piss on him if the money was taken out of the equation. And I could sit down and beat him mentally too. All he has is his fucking money. And his stooges. Wenger is one of those.
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I remember. We never even used to call the post game threads 'match reaction' it was 'player ratings' and we all used to give scores to the players with a brief summary on performances. We'd have way more varied discussions on GW. But it got to the point where we'd see the same players have poor performances or players played out of position and the focus started to go on why the manager kept on picking certain players. The post game thread stopped being about analysing performances and rating players. It morphed into posters venting after a poor performance. Letters and others would always say people are moaning too much and being 'doom and gloom' merchants, kneejerk reactions, etc, but I'd say something as simply as changing the post game thread name to 'match reaction' stopped us all from looking through the teams performance on a whole and picking out the one or two good performances even on a shit day.
But anyway, that's a side note. It's been frustrating to watch this team and I can't understand why Wenger hasn't worked out how to play certain players. I've never understood why he'd never pair Cesc and Rosicky in the middle with a strong DM or Nasri and Cesc with a strong DM in a 4-3-3. If he was looking at how Barca played, we needed a least two technical ball players in the middle of the park to create our version of Xavi and Iniesta. Instead he'd play Nasri or Rosicky on the wing and have two technically limited players behind Cesc such as Denilson, Song, Diaby and Flamini. It has taken him an age to figure out that you need two midfield wizards to play a 3 man midfield the way we want. But then again, he still hasn't worked it out. It's damn shame we had to lose both Cesc and Nasri before ever seeing Rosicky play CM and by then his career was finished. Same goes for finally seeing Cazorla as a CM. He can finally stumble on to a good thing but still not know what sort of player he should buy. He should have gone all out for Kante over Xhaka and should have been looking into Santi's understudy immediately. Instead, he's still trying to play Ramsey as a CM along with Xhaka.
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