Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

[Özim]

Just looked this one up and it could be BS but against Barnet he played as second striker and then moved up front!

We had other chances to sign Yaya so whatever excuse there was for not picking him up back then, we could have gone for him when he moved from Olympiacos to Monaco or when he went from Monaco to Barca. We were slow to react when his price tag was low and then reluctant to spend when Barca sold him to City.

Yeah we had plenty of opportunities to get him, Wenger didn't rate him so so that was that, just like all those other almost signed players who he never rated highly enough to pay the money for.

[Özim]

That remains to be seen.

It does yes, but on the evidence so far they are improving and looking like an excellent team, they do need to sort out the defence but they clearly have identified that as they trie to sign Van Dijk. They've also already signed some guy for next summer who is supposed to be pretty good.

[Power n Glory]

Yeah we had plenty of opportunities to get him, Wenger didn't rate him so so that was that, just like all those other almost signed players who he never rated highly enough to pay the money for.

Wenger didn't rate him, didn't know where to play him either so the player we saw at Barca and City may have turned out different under Wenger. We couldn't get a work permit for him whilst on trail but I'm sure if he were impressed and believed in his talent that much he'd have signed him then loaned him out. Wenger probably didn't like the way Yaya reacted when finding another club to play for since we were dragging our feet. It must be why he never moved for him seasons after. Too much for Wenger to handle.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ne-Wenger.html

“Yaya Touré played for us in a pre-season game as a second striker and he was completely average on the day,” said Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, of the younger Touré’s role in a 0-0 draw at Underhill on July 19, 2003. Reports say City’s barnstorming midfielder missed the game’s best chance.

The promotion of youth, he points out, is a gamble that misfires when the starlet leaves for bigger money five years later. “You need to be brave to put a player in at 18 years of age, and you need to make room for them, which means you not only need to stand up for the players you put in, but as well you have to kick somebody out.”

Wenger first encountered Yaya Touré when the player was 15 and based at Beveren in Belgium. “[Emmanuel] Eboué and Gervinho played there as well. Yaya Touré is a top-class player. We knew that at the time.

"The only problem was to fix him into a position because he can play everywhere. He can play centre-back, as a second striker, as a midfielder and for a long time we didn’t know where to play him.”

[Niall_Quinn]

How has he outdone Wenger? They finished top 4 while we didn't but you always dismiss that at as achievement, and it was only 2 points.
And while they won the imaginary top 4 trophy, we won a real one.

Will be interesting to see how they do this season, I think HCZs comment about trajectories is possibly right but it's a bit too early to say for certain.

Are you fucking serious?

You should start watching the matches again. Not for enjoyment, obviously, but as an indicator of how huge the gap is between us and any half decent side in this league. Just one bad performance, just one bad performance. No. It is the culmination of many outrageous capitulations strung across a decade. The last match we played is considered by some to be the worst performance ever seen in the PL. In reality, there have been a lot of shitty performances so how could they know? But it's safe to say it was among the worst performances ever. And if we played Liverpool again the same thing would happen. Because there's a gulf between us, in terms of the tactics, the work rate, the philosophy and, above all, the ambition. Liverpool are hauling themselves up on a rope. We just fell past them, using gravity. Narrow margins make a difference in competitive sport. Wide margins are catastrophic.

If you are genuinely trying to claim Wenger is in the same league as Klopp then you're completely delusional. I wonder how much evidence and over how long a period you'll require before realising the realities?

[Niall_Quinn]

That remains to be seen.

Everything remains to be seen. Over and over and over and over again.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger first encountered Yaya Touré when the player was 15 and based at Beveren in Belgium. “[Emmanuel] Eboué and Gervinho played there as well. Yaya Touré is a top-class player. We knew that at the time.

That about sums it up. Classic Wenger.

[Özim]

Wenger didn't rate him, didn't know where to play him either so the player we saw at Barca and City may have turned out different under Wenger. We couldn't get a work permit for him whilst on trail but I'm sure if he were impressed and believed in his talent that much he'd have signed him then loaned him out. Wenger probably didn't like the way Yaya reacted when finding another club to play for since we were dragging our feet. It must be why he never moved for him seasons after. Too much for Wenger to handle.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ne-Wenger.html

Interesting he thought Yaya was average and yet was it NQ who said he was the one of the two brothers we should have signed based on their performance on that day (sounds like bitter words by Wenger to me).

I agree he didn't rate him and clearly, he had other opportunities to get him and never did, would have been a perfect fit for us.

[Özim]

That about sums it up. Classic Wenger.

So let me get this straight, he signed Kolo Toure, signed Eboue, signed Gervinho but failed to sign the most talented player of the lot?

Pretty odd decision to me.

[Power n Glory]

So let me get this straight, he signed Kolo Toure, signed Eboue, signed Gervinho but failed to sign the most talented player of the lot?

Pretty odd decision to me.

How do you things would have turned out if we signed Yaya?

[Özim]

How do you things would have turned out if we signed Yaya?

He'd have probably played him on the wing and after years of being in and out of the team sold him.