Post match V Fc Kolon

[Power n Glory]

Anyway if you want to see why we're so tactically impotent check out these screen shots from Elliot:

https://twitter.com/YankeeGunner/sta...34091627888641


If Wenger really wanted to play three at back he needed to buy a CM or at least train one of Xhaka/Elneny/Ramsay to play in the role effectively. As it is, with the current setup we've pretty much got no central midfield and unless one of the CB goes on a run it's difficult for them to create openings.

Wenger has no clue. We used to see similar images when we'd have Ramsey and Wilshere in the middle with Arteta.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The results of the the game, the clean sheets and wins indicate that he hasn't cost us as many games or points as Herb suggests. Again, key word here being decent. He's going to make mistakes but we get that in all areas of the pitch.

Also, I was pointing out that when he's had a long run in the team, we've only lost two games and drawn two. It doesn't paint the full picture but it's enough to show that he's not an absolute calamity that can't be trusted. I suspect like most players, it's hard to judge a player until he gets a full run in the team. At the time when we bought Cech, Ospina had a good run in the team and most weren't blown away by the Cech signing.

That's a bit like saying the unbeaten run proves that Lehmann was world class

Now Lehmann was clearly a better keeper than Almunia or Ospina

But world class? No hed flap at corners. Be a silly bollocks and he was responsible for taking the gloss off our title win at white hart lane by being a dick and felling Robbie Keane.

We had excellent defenders in front of Lehmann that season. But I literally don't think it would have been possible to go the whole season unbeaten with Ospina in goal. He is just too much of a liability.

Is he capable of making match winning saves in the way Almunia for instance was not? Yeah for sure. But just couldn't be trusted because of his propensity for errors. Last nights goal was brilliant but it showcased the amount of times his clearances won't pass the half way line and even more so end up at the feet of the opposition.

Total inconsistency, like he made an excellent save at his near post last night but then there will be times where he's just not watching play and is too slow to react to get across his goal when someone is ghosting in.

That isn't down to ring rustiness, that's down to being inconsistent, having poor concentration and having shocking judgement and instincts.

You say it's not a big problem because he's only a back up. But I don't want to be playing any game where we know at any time the goalkeeper could potentially lose you points or cost you at the very least a clean sheet. And who is he a back up to? Petr Cech who is not getting any younger and has at times had problems with injury.

Now do I think that's as big an issue as the central midfield problem No I don't. But as I repeat I've never before watched games for us where I've had such grave misgivings about what will happen in the game simply because of who is in goal like I do with David Ospina.

[Power n Glory]

That's a bit like saying the unbeaten run proves that Lehmann was world class

Now Lehmann was clearly a better keeper than Almunia or Ospina

But world class? No hed flap at corners. Be a silly bollocks and he was responsible for taking the gloss off our title win at white hart lane by being a dick and felling Robbie Keane.

We had excellent defenders in front of Lehmann that season. But I literally don't think it would have been possible to go the whole season unbeaten with Ospina in goal. He is just too much of a liability.

Is he capable of making match winning saves in the way Almunia for instance was not? Yeah for sure. But just couldn't be trusted because of his propensity for errors. Last nights goal was brilliant but it showcased the amount of times his clearances won't pass the half way line and even more so end up at the feet of the opposition.

Total inconsistency, like he made an excellent save at his near post last night but then there will be times where he's just not watching play and is too slow to react to get across his goal when someone is ghosting in.

That isn't down to ring rustiness, that's down to being inconsistent, having poor concentration and having shocking judgement and instincts.

No, it would be like arguing that Lehman was a decent enough keeper to help us go unbeaten at that time and not such a huge liability that he'd cost us the title.

Again, as I said in your original post, decent was the key word. You're arguing as if people have said Ospina is World Class. As if I said he's world class. Is he less than decent?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

No, it would be like arguing that Lehman was a decent enough keeper to help us go unbeaten at that time and not such a huge liability that he'd cost us the title.

Again, as I said in your original post, decent was the key word. You're arguing as if people have said Ospina is World Class. As if I said he's world class. Is he less than decent?

No what I'm saying is saying that because we didn't drop as many points as we might have done during that period you have used as evidence that Ospina is decent. I think that's as spurious as saying going unbeaten in the league made Lehmann world class.

Lehmann is decent
Ospina is not

Lehmann made some ricks and his temprement was questionable

But as I say again the constant errors from Ospina whether he plays frequently, whether he plays sporadically are just far too frequent for him to be considered decent.

No you don't have to be completely error proof to be decent. You just have to be for the most part reliable. And when you have a keeper in goal when more often than not you get results in spite of him than because of him that's not reliable unless you are setting the bar incredibly low.

[Power n Glory]

No what I'm saying is saying that because we didn't drop as many points as we might have done during that period you have used as evidence that Ospina is decent. I think that's as spurious as saying going unbeaten in the league made Lehmann world class.

Lehmann is decent
Ospina is not

Lehmann made some ricks and his temprement was questionable

But as I say again the constant errors from Ospina whether he plays frequently, whether he plays sporadically are just far too frequent for him to be considered decent.

No you don't have to be completely error proof to be decent. You just have to be for the most part reliable. And when you have a keeper in goal when more often than not you get results in spite of him than because of him that's not reliable unless you are setting the bar incredibly low.

The dumb thing about your whole argument is that you're saying Sir Chesney should be playing over Ospina. I love Szczesny but he could cost us points and far from reliable.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The dumb thing about your whole argument is that you're saying Sir Chesney should be playing over Ospina. I love Szczesny but he could cost us points and far from reliable.

Every keeper can cost you points or make mistakes

Szczesny was an arrogant prick.

But again to ram the point home. Ospina fucks up far more often than he doesn't......the only difference is will he have an OK game where he only has a slight fuck up, or will it be on an industrial scale like against Spurs and Olympiakos in 2015.

Szczesny even at his worst I didn't become more wary simply as a result of him being on the team sheet.

In fact it's the most trepidation I feel at seeing an Arsenal player on the team sheet since Pascal Cygan. And Cygan wasn't even that shit, he was just far too slow and immobile for the premier league would have been fantastic in Italy.

[Xhaka Can’t]

What you two esteemed board members are arguing about is immaterial because our defence has made a world class keeper look like a chump from Day 1.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

What you two esteemed board members are arguing about is immaterial because our defence has made a world class keeper look like a chump from Day 1.

And our central midfield has left our defence exposed time and time again.

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[Niall_Quinn]

Our manager deserves all the credit.

[Letters]

Our manager deserves all the credit.

FINALLY! Something we can all agree on