Match reaction - Man City

[Cripps]

Except very little he’s done as manager in the past few years would have much of a positive impact on share values, so if he is a Share holder he has very little interest in making a nest egg from his investment

Fan unrest will make sponsors uneasy when it comes to negotiating deals, not to mention the bungling over player contracts

Just imagine if we lose in a fortnight to Spurs, you will have pandemonium in the stadium (Emirates won’t like that)

Well that's not true. The constant focus on improving us commercially, which has taken a front seat and success on the pitch a back seat, suggests so. Also we seem to be making profits in transfer windows or very small negative net spends, which also suggests that. Plus his comments about paying all 700 employees last season tells me he thinks very differently from a manager, and more like someone interested in the balance sheet.

[selassie]

Except very little he’s done as manager in the past few years would have much of a positive impact on share values, so if he is a Share holder he has very little interest in making a nest egg from his investment

Fan unrest will make sponsors uneasy when it comes to negotiating deals, not to mention the bungling over player contracts

Just imagine if we lose in a fortnight to Spurs, you will have pandemonium in the stadium (Emirates won’t like that)

Yep I agree Herb, I don't think it's got anything to do with Money Making, Wenger is actually losing the club money now and has been over the past few seasons with his wretched transfer policy. He's stacked the squad with junk. What makes it worse is the players we want to keep will be walking away for nothing and the players we don't want we can't get shot of. This has got nothing to do with money making, it's all to do with poor management from top to bottom.

[Cripps]

Yep I agree Herb, I don't think it's got anything to do with Money Making, Wenger is actually losing the club money now and has been over the past few seasons with his wretched transfer policy.

He says as the club's profit before tax was £12.6m in the latest financial results, compared to a loss of £6.2m for the same period a year earlier...

[Niall_Quinn]

Yep I agree Herb, I don't think it's got anything to do with Money Making, Wenger is actually losing the club money now and has been over the past few seasons with his wretched transfer policy. He's stacked the squad with junk. What makes it worse is the players we want to keep will be walking away for nothing and the players we don't want we can't get shot of. This has got nothing to do with money making, it's all to do with poor management from top to bottom.

Certainly agree that (despite the non-fact we are over-achieving in relation to our major rivals) we suffer bad management from top to bottom. Which is why these losers might not even be aware of some of the issues you point out. If they are sitting there thinking Xhaka is the best thing since sliced bread and the 35mill was a great investment, which considering Wenger sticks him on every team sheet might be the case, they might be equally confused when it comes to handling Lacazette. If they are completely incompetent, which may or may not be the case but which the end results certainly suggest, it's no use for the fans to try to connect things together in a logical manner because we aren't dealing in logic here, or even common sense. We're dealing in pure madness half the time and rank incompetence for the rest of it.

These idiots are sitting on a quarter of a billion quid in a hyper inflated market. So, for sure, they are losing money. On the other hand, and in other markets, and if there is no intention to spend that money in football but instead to use it to underpin some other venture, maybe the madness and incompetence on a football level then makes some sort of twisted sense. In this case we're calling the board and the manager corrupt. Another very strong possibility.

[Power n Glory]

He barely ever has a good game, totally agree he'll never make it in the league, he just doesn't have the attributes, just don't understand what would possess Wenger to buy him in the 1st place, for 35 million on top of that. Seems to be another one of his golden boys that can't be dropped as well, however poor he is.

The season we bought Xhaka he played a pre-season game against Pep’s City and we were getting bossed. We couldn’t hold possession and were easily pinned back inside of our own box. We were losing, Once Wenger subbed off Xhaka for Elneny we looked much better, the fluidity came back and we ended up winning.

Only a pre season game but that game set the alarm bells ringing when I saw how slow he looked and how he’s unable to cope with teams that press high. Wenger should have gone the usual 4 at the back formation and paired Elneny with Coquelin. Xhaka has played every possible combination and he doesn’t suit any system. Terrible signing.

[Niall_Quinn]

But do you see how mad this has become? We are now saying Elneny was a better option than Coquelin, and that might be true once you are through the looking glass. But what about the ACTUAL defenders we have available that don't even make the squad? We need to be careful not to get sucked into Wenger's la la land. Draw right back and look at his insanity in all its glory. The fixes are simple but the old fool is mired in layer upon layer of his own craziness.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well that's not true. The constant focus on improving us commercially, which has taken a front seat and success on the pitch a back seat, suggests so. Also we seem to be making profits in transfer windows or very small negative net spends, which also suggests that. Plus his comments about paying all 700 employees last season tells me he thinks very differently from a manager, and more like someone interested in the balance sheet.

Except that in terms of commercial deals we are behind a lot of other premier league clubs. And the profit you allude to is far more a result of the tv money and our lack of transfer spending.

Now if we wanted to make more profit from transfers we’d have sold both Sanchez and Ozil

[Niall_Quinn]

Except that in terms of commercial deals we are behind a lot of other premier league clubs. And the profit you allude to is far more a result of the tv money and our lack of transfer spending.

Now if we wanted to make more profit from transfers we’d have sold both Sanchez and Ozil

Maybe they fucked that up too. Certainly that's what the gypos claim. Our incompetence and dithering was the main reason Alexis is not gone and Lemar is not here. So goes the claim.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

But do you see how mad this has become? We are now saying Elneny was a better option than Coquelin, and that might be true once you are through the looking glass. But what about the ACTUAL defenders we have available that don't even make the squad? We need to be careful not to get sucked into Wenger's la la land. Draw right back and look at his insanity in all its glory. The fixes are simple but the old fool is mired in layer upon layer of his own craziness.

Well only assuming that we keep to the same rigid formation that Wenger shoe horns his players into

I would have played Holding instead of Monreal and Elneny in front of those two

[Cripps]

Except that in terms of commercial deals we are behind a lot of other premier league clubs. And the profit you allude to is far more a result of the tv money and our lack of transfer spending.

Yeah because we signed terrible deals years ago that we're still locked into. IMO that's why we're such a tight arse in other areas, because we're trying to make up for it. I had a friend who went for an interview pretty high up at the club and they basically admitted they are doing everything in their power to match Man Utd commercially.